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Old 01-28-2013, 11:29 PM   #14446
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Hey all,

Just a question about the amount of oil I need to properly run my 97 dr350se.

On the frame is says "1700ml," but does that not include the oil that stays in the engine itself?

The reason why I ask is because I put in a quart (.946 ml) ran the bike for about 3 minutes, then checked the oil, and put almost all of the other quart in (because of being a dry sump)...

...It reads low, .946 ml x 2 = 1892 ml

It still reads low after I run the engine for 2 minutes and then put the dipstick in (not screwed in).

Any ideas? tips?
My 1990 dr350s takes just under 2 litres. I know this from accidentally running it completely dry just past toronto, and it took a full 2 litres (they sell oil by the litre in canada). So 2 qts or a little over sounds about right to me, And you are correct in not screwing the dipstick in when checking.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:27 AM   #14447
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Valve clearances! To me it sounds like your intake valves are just barely not closing all the way. That would explain why in the video it's so easy for you to kick (low compression), the backfiring (back into the intake and carb), and why there is smoke from the intake when you remove the carb/intake boot/whatever it was.
It's easy to kick because it has an auto-decompression cam. All 94-99 dirt models have it and don't require use of the lever....even though they have the lever. I removed mine.
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:54 AM   #14448
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Yep. Mine sat up for a couple weeks and I started it last night in three kicks. Valves in spec, fresh high-octane, full choke, 10 priming kicks, three real kicks. Vroom!
Agreed! I hear all the time people lamenting the kick-start problems with their DR350. My 1993 dirt model fit with a CV carb is a dream. Give it a bunch of priming kicks and then generally two real kicks. Done! Takes me longer to type this than to do it. After it is warm, no trouble at all.

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Old 01-29-2013, 07:14 AM   #14449
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Valve clearances! To me it sounds like your intake valves are just barely not closing all the way. That would explain why in the video it's so easy for you to kick (low compression), the backfiring (back into the intake and carb), and why there is smoke from the intake when you remove the carb/intake boot/whatever it was.
Someone brought this up a few pages ago, even though I had adjusted them about 750 miles ago.
So I checked them again, 0.003" for the intake valves...

Guess I could check them again.
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:24 AM   #14450
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Does anyone have a spare stock exhaust willing to part with it for some $$?
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:40 AM   #14451
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Does anyone have a spare stock exhaust willing to part with it for some $$?
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:47 AM   #14452
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Does anyone have a spare stock exhaust willing to part with it for some $$?


I have a bad-ass Supertrapp setup I'll trade you
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:05 AM   #14453
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I have a bad-ass Supertrapp setup I'll trade you
im glad youre getting your sense of humor back! thanks for the laugh
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:46 AM   #14454
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Someone brought this up a few pages ago, even though I had adjusted them about 750 miles ago.
So I checked them again, 0.003" for the intake valves...

Guess I could check them again.
Sure you know this but turn the enigne over till you reach the point where the valves jiggle before you adjust the clearance. Mine was off from the TDC mark.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:54 AM   #14455
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Switched out the cdi, still popping and sputtering.

Tomorrow I'll swapt out the stator to try that, and then the regulator if that doesn't do the trick.
I even swapped out the spark plug boot, no dice.
I don't know if I'd bother with the regulator. All that does is set the voltage for the head/tail light. It's not difficult to swap, but it shouldn't have anything to do with the way the bike runs.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:18 AM   #14456
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I jsut bought a 2nd pair of 98 rm250 forks.

I think I have a problem.
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Old 01-29-2013, 11:51 AM   #14457
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[QUOTE=smc5735;20597290]Hey all,

Just a question about the amount of oil I need to properly run my 97 dr350se.

On the frame is says "1700ml," but does that not include the oil that stays in the engine itself?

The reason why I ask is because I put in a quart (.946 ml) ran the bike for about 3 minutes, then checked the oil, and put almost all of the other quart in (because of being a dry sump)...

...It reads low, .946 ml x 2 = 1892 ml

It still reads low after I run the engine for 2 minutes and then put the dipstick in (not screwed in).

Any ideas? tips?
WHEN YOU CHANGE THE OIL ONLY AND DRAIN THE ENGINE AND FRAME YOU WILL NEED TO PUT 1700ml BACK IN ,IF YOU CHANGE THE OIL AND OIL FILTER YOU WILL NEED TO FILL WITH 1900ml
THE VOLUMES INCLUDE ENGINE AND FRAME TOGETHER
I would drain the engine and sump into a measuring jug to see how much you have [make sure areas around the drain bolts are clean to avoid dirt getting into the oil] and then refil with 1700ml,run the engine for 4 minutes and check .You know how much oil you have put in via the measuring jug
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:57 PM   #14458
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If anyone of you guys got a german granny - ask her for the "Otto" winter sale - mag, and have a look at page 119
... and smile

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Old 01-29-2013, 01:06 PM   #14459
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If anyone of you guys got a german granny - ask her for the "Otto" winter sale - mag, and have a look at page 119
... and smile

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/405/foto0325c.jpg/


Nice. The euro DR350 with the handles on the grab bar.
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Old 01-29-2013, 01:10 PM   #14460
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Sure you know this but turn the enigne over till you reach the point where the valves jiggle before you adjust the clearance. Mine was off from the TDC mark.
I'll give it a shot.

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I don't know if I'd bother with the regulator. All that does is set the voltage for the head/tail light. It's not difficult to swap, but it shouldn't have anything to do with the way the bike runs.

You're probably right. I'm going to try and swap stators right now... the wind is blowing about 50mph and its 33*F out. I'll try dragging the bike into the tiny shop room and wrenching on it.

If this and checking the valves doesn't work, I'm setting it on fire.

something along the lines of this but angrier:
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