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Old 03-22-2013, 05:13 AM   #3511
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Agreed...Let's get back to the topic at hand, packed-up bikes.
Though I own several DS bikes, a friend and I are looking at a 5 to 7 day DS ride on small bore bikes. I'm using a little CRF230L Honda. I'd be interested in seeing one packed. The rear subframe does not look strong enough for a lot of weight (only rated at 20 lbs) so Im most likely going to have to use seat mounted bags like Wolfman E-12's or Great Basin loop bags. Any one got a pic of a loaded CRF230L?
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:19 AM   #3512
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.. wow picky picky ..

.. oh yeah .. it's not a MH nor an RV .. fyi ..

.. and with no idea what he's packing in that side car (like a tent, cot, and sunshower maybe) you don't know what he's got ..

.. though my money is on the Sprinter .. lol ..

Well I'll tell you:
Sidecar holds all the gear you need. You see - kinda like climbing Mt Everest - the base camp is the Sprinter - from there you ride out for the back country. Nice to return to the comforts of "home". Although I see by a couple of the posts some live on the street and do indeed need a shower

Oh, and I ride all over the country; slabbing from one place to the other just
does not do it anymore. So when I pass you in that rain/snow storm or the
105 degree heat; while I sit in dry or AC comfort, I'll wave


OBTW now approching 400,000 miles (ON THE BIKE) - How long have you been in the saddle? Huh?
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:26 AM   #3513
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My bike last weekend.


Camp
I always thought camping was getting away from it, not bring it all with you like so many of the entries in this thread. Therefore I aplaud your setup. Bike looks neat and well ordered and minimalist IMO. And your camp set up for the evening looks great - all together excellent and not spread out like you brought like you brought the entire contents of your home - congratulations.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:31 AM   #3514
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Congratulations. You just took the "adventure" out of "adventure riding", and turned your motorcycle into a car, removing the "riding" part. I guess we should change this to a "driving" forum.

I second your comments.
I know we shouldn't be flaming other entries but I just can't warm up to Winnibego type rigs and KOA campsites. Give me a 200cc to 250cc off'roader, basic gear and supplies (and a little refreshments) and away I go.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:38 AM   #3515
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I second your comments.
I know we shouldn't be flaming other entries but I just can't warm up to Winnibego type rigs and KOA campsites. Give me a 200cc to 250cc off'roader, basic gear and supplies (and a little refreshments) and away I go.
Well, I say to each his own, but I prefer to ride and camp. For the price of a camping outfit like that you could likely stay in four- and five-star hotels every night for a year or more calling in room service for all your meals, if comfort is you ultimate goal. But that's just me.
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:49 AM   #3516
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Agreed...Let's get back to the topic at hand, packed-up bikes.
Though I own several DS bikes, a friend and I are looking at a 5 to 7 day DS ride on small bore bikes. I'm using a little CRF230L Honda. I'd be interested in seeing one packed. The rear subframe does not look strong enough for a lot of weight (only rated at 20 lbs) so Im most likely going to have to use seat mounted bags like Wolfman E-12's or Great Basin loop bags. Any one got a pic of a loaded CRF230L?
I had a DRZe model that doesn't have a subframe in the rear. I used throw over saddlebags, which covered right over the side number plates. I also used tank saddle bags for an ATV and they held alot of gear as well. Small fender bag on the front held tools. I had enough room for a couple days worth, I never camped any longer than that.

I think a big loop bag would be ideal and would stay on the back part of the seat and not stress the rear fender.
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Old 03-22-2013, 11:50 AM   #3517
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First time motorcycle camping

This is a snap of my 2006 FZ6 loaded up on a 5 night solo camping trip last year. This was the first time camping on my bike and really wasn't sure how the bike would handle or how everything would pack, but thought I had a good system.

Dry bag has a huge WalMart tent that leaked like crazy, sleeping pad, large tarp, stool and sleeping bag. Saddle bag 1 had clothes, saddle bag 2 had food and accessories. Trunk has tools, rain gear, stove, extra gas, air compressor. Tank bag had my phone, wallet, glasses, extra gloves, hat, random stuff.

I pretty much used everything I had except the stool. I have upgraded my tent and sleeping mat for this year. Spending 3 days in the bush with pouring rain and a 1 hour ride on a dirt road in northern Ontario wasn't as fun as it could have been.

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Old 03-22-2013, 05:53 PM   #3518
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Still working on my loading technique. I need to give myself some more room in the saddle.



The 2 dry bags are 2 sleeping bags with liners and pillows.
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Old 03-22-2013, 08:04 PM   #3519
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Hey syzygy.

Mate, do you have the option to spin the bag lengthwise along the seat behind you and strap the tent on top? I have a mate with the same BC bag on his Tiger 1050, and he straps it on rack (with his multipurpose plank under it). It seems to put alot of stress on the SW Rack and actually shattered the spacers.

I use D76 Dry Bags, and tend to use a slimmer profile lengthways.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...72&postcount=4

Just a thought.

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Good idea, but will transition to Jesse Panniers (on order from Sunshine Coast based MDT Tours) from Andy Strapz soft bags. I found the inconvenience of soft bags (don't carry much or fit well) a hassle and will get some heavier panniers (unfortunately) but keep things low and centered and off the rear rack.
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:35 AM   #3520
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Good idea, but will transition to Jesse Panniers (on order from Sunshine Coast based MDT Tours) from Andy Strapz soft bags. I found the inconvenience of soft bags (don't carry much or fit well) a hassle and will get some heavier panniers (unfortunately) but keep things low and centered and off the rear rack.

But that's the idea, less is more

As the saying goes "pack smaller, take less, travel lighter" includes being able to safely ride as well in many conditions.......

Don't get me wrong, on the GS I have the stock hard bags and a small top box but I try not to add anything I cant carry in those boxes. If it has to go on the passenger seat it's only a small (shoe box size) soft bag. I always have the fear, with hard bags, that a tip over will crush my leg or foot (again).
I use small bags (Wolfman) on the DRZ and much prefer to travel as light as I can.

Big cases are helpful however when the pig falls over and you have to pick it up
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Old 03-23-2013, 05:40 PM   #3521
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But that's the idea, less is more

As the saying goes "pack smaller, take less, travel lighter" includes being able to safely ride as well in many conditions.......

I think the above thinking is relevant no matter what bike you ride. Whether it's a BMW GS or CRF230 the less weight carried the better the bike will handle.

I've noticed a huge difference when going from this:




slimmed down to this over the years:






Both loads carry the same basics. Enough gear for camping/cooking/food etc. for multiple days.

Over time though I learned to trim down and leave home what was not needed or generally used on the trips. Also paring down to more packable gear; for example, from an inflatable Thermo-Rest that packs huge (top pic green bag) to something like a Neo Air saves a ton of volume yet accomplishes the same task.

Upside is that the payoff is a bike that handles worlds better due to a lighter, smaller volume packed load. Something that matters as much if you;re on a 990 Adventure or TW200. After all the whole reason to get on the bike is to enjoy the ride and a lighter bike ensures a more enjoyable ride usually.
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:13 PM   #3522
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Well I'll tell you:
Sidecar holds all the gear you need. You see - kinda like climbing Mt Everest - the base camp is the Sprinter - from there you ride out for the back country. Nice to return to the comforts of "home". Although I see by a couple of the posts some live on the street and do indeed need a shower

Oh, and I ride all over the country; slabbing from one place to the other just
does not do it anymore. So when I pass you in that rain/snow storm or the
105 degree heat; while I sit in dry or AC comfort, I'll wave


OBTW now approching 400,000 miles (ON THE BIKE) - How long have you been in the saddle? Huh?
.. wow .. I get the sense I just had my balls pounded by someone I was taking up for .. whatever ..

.. yep .. I sometimes stink when I camp and ride .. I've slept on everything from a picnic table at the rest stop, to the Holiday Inn, to someone's sofa cause they felt sorry for "that idiot out in the rain" .. I still love traveling on my bike .. doubt that will ever change ..

I have only managed about 200K miles (with about an 18 year hiatus being a dad and husband) and I'll likely not see more the 500K lifetime as I'm on my second family .. whatever ..

.. there's a lot more I could claim/brag/yap about, but it's probably just not worth the effort on someone's who's prouder of the things they have gathered so they can rub someone's nose in it as they wave hello from their air-conditioned life rather than sharing the experience and enjoying the camaraderie of the adventure ..

.. oh yeah .. so I don't get jumped for derailing the thread (entirely) ..

.. one of my twins playing with our camping gear for the bike ..


.. how it fits on the bike .. or used to .. I swapped it up a little since this shot was taken .. my bike's on the left (obviously) ..


.. I don't carry a sleeping bag anymore, just and old-school bedroll, tent, tarp, micro-stove and food .. change of clothes for two days beyond what I am wearing .. I don't have much use for a sleep pad either .. I carry more tools and bike-related repair/maintenance gear than most .. and I enjoy every moment of it (sometimes only after the fact when it's miserable/ugly weather) and I hope God is kind enough to allow me to continue doing it for another 20 or thirty years (though that would put me into my 80's by then) ..

.. y'all ride blessed ..
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:35 PM   #3523
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:47 AM   #3524
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I guess, to be fair, I also have the means to afford the best gear I can find
Humm...that's a KTM or am I mistaking???[/QUOTE]


He's not speaking of service costs, Beamer
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:11 PM   #3525
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This is how I moved to Alaska last spring.

In the Sierra's



In Canada



Outside the Very Large Array in New Mexico




Fully HALF of that rear duffel was my sleeping bag (a Marmot Never Summer Long) in a compression sack. For as little as I ended up camping, I should have left the bastard at home. My pack was light enough and compact enough to off-road in the Mohave and Death Valley, but enough to keep me comfortable and cool/warm from the high 90's to sub-zero temps, rain, snow, ice, hail, and dust. All I had for luggage was that duffel, wolfman enduro saddle bags, and a wolfman enduro tank bag.

Left saddle bag: tools (chain tool, tire irons, tire pump, few other small items), spares (oil filter, front and rear tubes, drain plugs, spare levers, spare shifter, and a few other bits), and a few other misc rarely used items.

Right saddle bag: cooking kit and fuel (alcohol stove, small REI pot with lid and handle, spork, MSR heatshield kit for the stove, small bottle of yellow HEET), first aid kit, some rope and a silnylon tarp, wet wipes, snacks, and a few other misc rarely used items

In the duffel: 5 days worth of underclothes (socks, underwear, t-shirt), thermals, Eddie Bauer down jacket, heated jacket, fleece pants, sleeping bag, sleeping bad (Exped Synmat 7 UL, about the size of a soda bottle when packed), rain over gloves, winter gloves, off-bike pants and shoes, toiletries kit, and a few other bits.

I got rid of the sleeping bag and the duffel... the sleeping bag was too long and packed too big, while the duffel was just straight worn out. I'm just going to use the eVent compression sacks and maybe my Wolfman enduro duffel and leave it be.

Now that I'm finally almost satisfied with my WR's camping setup... I bought a new-to-me bike and get to figure it out again! 98 CB750
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