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View Results: 640 Enduro, 450EXC, or other???
640 Enduro 4 20.00%
450 EXC 15 75.00%
other 1 5.00%
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:09 PM   #1
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KTM 640 Enduro or 450 EXC??

Looking at getting a lighter/small dual sport to replace the 950 Adventure now that I have a big touring bike. I want it to tear around town, commute to/from work (only 3 miles with some maintained dirt road being optional), take on easy trails, and play around at the track with my 5yr old who rides a PW-50 (so no big air jumps or anything). I'm also planning to have a set of supermotard wheels/tires for the street and want to be able to really hooligan around on it (I do on my 950 and it always puts a smile on my face riding it). I'm not at all worried about the interstate but there will be some highway use (55-65mph) as that's the only way to get around.

I've got a guy wanting to trade me a 2001 640 Enduro with only 8000 miles on it that already has a set of 17" supermoto wheels. I also have a guy looking to make me an outright cash offer on it, that would allow me to take my pick of several 450 EXC's on Craigslist in my area that are ranging in the 3-4K$ range. I could potentially pocket an extra 1-2K$ selling it outright and buying a 450 EXC, except I would then need to find a set of supermoto wheels/tires.

What would you recommend and why?

Oh yeah, and I have very little dirt experience outside of the maintained road going to work and playing around on my father in law's TTR-225.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:26 AM   #2
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Getting ready to go look at the 640 Enduro and see what I think about it. I guess between my impressions of it compared to how much the other guy offers me will make my decision for me. I've never ridden a 450 EXC so unfortunately I won't have a comparison there. I guess if I did take the cash I could probably always call the guy with the 640E back up and just buy it outright from him.
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Old 07-25-2013, 07:52 AM   #3
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I've sworn off the older LC4s because of vibration. I've been thru 4 of them. I've also had 3 RFS and the new 530, all do everything better than the 640 except passengers. If I wanted an Adv 640, I'd rather build an Adv530 or 525 or 450. No contest.
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:53 AM   #4
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Given your intended use and the fact that you have a touring bike for the road, get a 450EXC, or a 525/530EXC if you can find one
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Old 07-25-2013, 08:57 AM   #5
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They are completely different animals. Ride the 640, ride an EXC, and you will have your answer. The EXC will require more frequent maintenance work.

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Old 07-25-2013, 08:57 AM   #6
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I've sworn off the older LC4s because of vibration. I've been thru 4 of them. I've also had 3 RFS and the new 530, all do everything better than the 640 except passengers. If I wanted an Adv 640, I'd rather build an Adv530 or 525 or 450. No contest.
+1.

If you don't need passenger or heavy luggage capability, I'd pick a 450-570 KTM/Berg any time.

They have similar power to the 640 but are in a different league weight wise, not as stable on the highway but less vibes.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:32 AM   #7
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EXC vs LC4

I also have owned them both. I have owned 4 of the 640e LC4s and one EXC 525.
The newer RFS of the 450 and 525 are superior in every way. Slow or fast, they are great bikes. Easy to work on if needed.
The LC4s are harder to work and are getting old. They are heavy !
And that engine will shake you big time, I loose feelings in my hands and feet while riding on the street. Off road not as noticable.
I do realize the LC4 is a true dual sport and the EXC is a racing enduro, but the lighter more powerful EXC wins everytime.

My vote, go for the EXC without a doubt.
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Old 07-25-2013, 09:55 AM   #8
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Yep, I've spent time on both and while the 640 is a decent bike, and arguably a better dual sport, the 450EXC is a great offroad bike and sounds like a better choice for your intended use. I'd never want to take a 640 to any track.

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Old 07-25-2013, 10:00 AM   #9
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I test rode the 640 Enduro and at only 300lbs it seemed very small and light compared 950 Adv. It was a fun little bike, especially with the SuperMoto wheels on it. However, despite what should be a better power/weight ratio compared to my 950 Adv it just didn't seem as peppy as I was hoping. The vibes were there too, more so than I remember on the 3 640 Adventure I test rode earlier in the year before buying my 950 Adv. I'm just not certain its worth getting rid of the 950 Adventure for, I really do like the big Katoom twin.

I told the guy I really wanted to test ride the 450 EXC first before I made a final decision.
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Old 07-25-2013, 10:08 AM   #10
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I test rode the 640 Enduro and at only 300lbs it seemed very small and light compared 950 Adv. It was a fun little bike, especially with the SuperMoto wheels on it. However, despite what should be a better power/weight ratio compared to my 950 Adv it just didn't seem as peppy as I was hoping. The vibes were there too, more so than I remember on the 3 640 Adventure I test rode earlier in the year before buying my 950 Adv. I'm just not certain its worth getting rid of the 950 Adventure for, I really do like the big Katoom twin.

I told the guy I really wanted to test ride the 450 EXC first before I made a final decision.
...almost anything will seem small and light compared to a 950 Adventure!

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Old 07-25-2013, 10:19 AM   #11
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...almost anything will seem small and light compared to a 950 Adventure!

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Yeah, and compared to my 850+lbs Vulcan 1700 Vaquero my 950 Adventure feels really light and nimble.
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Yeah, and compared to my 850+lbs Vulcan 1700 Vaquero my 950 Adventure feels really light and nimble.
...and compared to my 950 lb Electraglide Classic, your Vulcan feels light and nimble!

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Old 07-25-2013, 02:56 PM   #13
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You mean Geezer-Glide Classic.

Sweet bikes but just not worth the money for me.
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Old 07-25-2013, 03:28 PM   #14
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+1 on the 450EXC-R

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Old 07-25-2013, 08:29 PM   #15
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i agree with everything said,,, i think the exc would be a better fit for you, however i would like to point out my hands went to sleep just as fast on a triumph triple as they do on an LC4,,,, the vibes dont bother me at all.
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