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Old 05-08-2008, 11:35 AM   #766
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Everyone tell me about your top speeds. When you're cruising at 60 (in 5th of course), do you get a noticeable increse in vibration when you go up to 65? Or between 65 and 70 perhaps? I think at 62 mine starts to go to a level of vibration that is just too much. A level of vibration that had me thinking about absurdly thick foam pads over my grips for cruising. I've had it up to 80 and 90 for a little while before, and up to 70 for extended periods. I'm just thinking my bottom end bearings are getting too far out of tolerance and creating this vibration. I'm also thinking that it is this excess vibration that has caused the base gasket to go, one of the cylinder bolts must have rattled loose, I started to hear a little tinkling metallic rattling that is still noticeable now before the base gasket started to leak, and it has developed into a bigger leak with the base gasket actually torn all the way through and blown out of position in the front. It's still running well and good around town as long as I don't keep it all the way hot for to long or the hot thin oil will leak a lot.

So does bottom end bearings out-of-tolerance show up as this kind of vibration, or should I just upgear the chain and sprocket(s) if I wanna cruise more smoothly at 65-70?
Sounds like its time for the motor to come out again. I only had mine out 4 times to get everything right! I used locktight blue on those 4 cylinder bolts and copper coat on the gasket. I think the torque spec on those bolts is 25 foot pounds and they use a thick steel washer underneath.
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Old 05-08-2008, 10:18 PM   #767
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I swapped to an aluminum bar as well but kept the bar end weights (I had to make custom mounts for them) They really do help with the vibes. It's hard to judge whether your vibes are unusual over the web like this. You gotta remember there's a lot more mass moving up and down in the 600 than your scooters had so it won't be anywhere near as smooth. Do you have any freinds with experience on thumpers? Maybe one of them could hop on your XL and give their impressions of the vibes. If it really feels like it's shaking itself apart at 60 in 4th something is wrong it should be fairly smooth there.
I've felt it in the bars mostly, and it's at a certain RPM range regardless of gear. I'm thinking I'll try to get the bar weights back in there and see if that helps. i've tried feeling the engine at those speeds, and when I touch the engine, it doesnt feel anywhere near as vibrational as the bars do, so that's a good sign. Do your aluminum bars kind of soften things up for you too? That may also be worth a try. If you could describe your custom mount for the bar weights, that might be helpful. Thanks!
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Old 05-08-2008, 11:19 PM   #768
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I've felt it in the bars mostly, and it's at a certain RPM range regardless of gear. I'm thinking I'll try to get the bar weights back in there and see if that helps. i've tried feeling the engine at those speeds, and when I touch the engine, it doesnt feel anywhere near as vibrational as the bars do, so that's a good sign. Do your aluminum bars kind of soften things up for you too? That may also be worth a try. If you could describe your custom mount for the bar weights, that might be helpful. Thanks!
Pretty simple really, just a cylinder of aluminum that I machined down till it fit tight in the end of the bar for the left (it's threaded in the center for the bolt that holds the weight on) and on the right I used the stock mount (which rotates with the throttle) which I machined down to fit the smaller inside diameter of the aluminum bar. I don't know how much effect the bars themselves have, I replaced mine because the stock steel bars were bent pretty badly before I got the bike.
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:57 AM   #769
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new question here

(i am sorry if I am threadjacking)

I installed some led blinkers in the rear and this is how I wired them

power to left on orange
power to right on light blue

and the ground wires to the bikes frame.

but they dont blink at all.

could my switch thing be broken?

I dont know where to begin to look
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:59 AM   #770
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new question here

(i am sorry if I am threadjacking)

I installed some led blinkers in the rear and this is how I wired them

power to left on orange
power to right on light blue

and the ground wires to the bikes frame.

but they dont blink at all.

could my switch thing be broken?

I dont know where to begin to look
If you seach on ADV you will see a few threads on this very topic. Essentially, when you use LEDs you need to add resistor packs since LEDs have much less resistance then regular bulbs and hence the blinker relay doesn't work correctly.

I doubt anything is broken but you will need to do more stuff to get them working.
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Old 05-09-2008, 12:56 PM   #771
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I would put the stock ones back on they work fine.
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Old 05-09-2008, 01:53 PM   #772
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I bought my bike without any turn lights.

I got these leds for $14 for 4

the originals are bulky and I can usually only find one at a time, for prices up to $28 a peice.
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Old 05-09-2008, 02:47 PM   #773
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Speaking of parts, does anyone want to part with just one OEM passenger peg (The ones that mount on the swingarm) one of mine was smashed before I got the bike and I'd like to have two good ones.
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Old 05-09-2008, 03:41 PM   #774
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Upgrades and Farkles

I dropped a little bit of cash on my 83 this week, and started to get it ready for longer summer road trips. I thought I would post some pictures and give you guys some options.

Storage

Topbox

I needed a waterproof box for my travels to protect my papers and electronics. I had looked at various top boxes. Top on my list was the Pelican 1500 case, but since I lacked funds I decided to use something I saw in another thread, an 8 Gallon Rubber Maid Action packer. I picked mine up at Wal-Mart for $15 and got some reflective tape and U-Bolts to secure to the rear rack... the one that was sold for months on closeout on eBay. This case is a perfect size, lockable and secured to my rack very easily. Total cost around $20.





Tank Panniers

After looking at my options and my wallet I settled on Tusk ATV panniers from Rocky Mountain ATV. They were recommended by others. They secure with velcro to the tank side. The fit pretty well, and I look forward to using them. Total Cost $18.




Electrical

12v Jack
I wanted to be able to charge my phone and other devices while on the road. I went ahead and installed an all weather 12v Cigarette socket in my Action Packer. It charges my camera and phone with ease. All it required was the socket, an inline fuse, a soldering iron and wire. Total cost $10.



Controls

The stock bars had to go, and I wanted hand protection. I ordered up a set of Tusk Aluminum Handlbars (High CR), Tusk Aluminum Bark Busters and some new Renthal dual compound full waffle grips. It really changed the feel of the bike. Much less vibey and has a nice feel to it. I also like that my hands are protected. Total cost for all the components around $70.





One other thing, I also replaced the sparkplug FINALLY thanks to an extended socket I bought. The bike is easier to start than ever.. a very nice and surprising improvement.

I hope this gives you all some ideas
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:55 PM   #775
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Old 05-09-2008, 08:08 PM   #776
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Some more pics of the mighty XL600R. LOL

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Old 05-09-2008, 10:24 PM   #777
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The engine came out today. I was replacing the base gasket as some of you remember. I've decided that a full bottom end rebuild is the thing to do. It will alleviate any concern that the center cases were leaking, as they apeared to be doing near the base gasket (saw somw squishing and bubbling at the seam AFTER the cylindr was off...) and I will find out what metallic piece is tinking around if i don't find it in the right side case hen I take that off. Definetly something in there, ther were a lot of aluminum shavings and even a small piece of aluminum in the oil when I drained it. The oii was ok and nice amber when I left for the ADV rider dinner I had to turn back halfway to the other weekend. The turn around point was when I saw that the base gasket was really blowing. Otherwise it was running fine and hopefully it is benign but I will see. I'm not taking any chances on a 4000 mile trip and since I'm selling all i own to make the trip, the parts will be affordable and worth the cost.
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:48 PM   #778
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Old 05-10-2008, 03:22 PM   #779
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Hope you get it all solved to your satisfaction, Joel. Good luck. Waiting to see you in Denver.
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Old 05-10-2008, 07:30 PM   #780
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Oh, Uh, I may not be headed that way actually. Check the last page of the trip plan. And my brother's actually headed to Alaska now instead of Colorado.
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