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Old 06-25-2007, 11:17 PM   #1
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f650GS oil change

Just changed my oil, at 46,000 km. And I rounded the sump plug pretty good! Never did get it off, and I tried every thing I had on hand: right sized wrench, open ended and boxed; adjustable wrenches, vice grips, hammers and smaller wreches. Bleh. So I still have about .6L of old oil in there. Oh well.

I'll find a good 6 sided socket somewhere later and re-place the plug at the next oil change. In the meantime I'm just content to have changed the oil myself for the first time, and bunged the dealer out of way too much money for an oil change ($90 an hour labour?).

I just wanted to rant a bit about how dealers (in accordance with the f650.com FAQ) consistently over-tighten the sump plug. That's all.

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Old 06-25-2007, 11:49 PM   #2
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Just changed my oil, at 46,000 km. And I rounded the sump plug pretty good! Never did get it off, and I tried every thing I had on hand: right sized wrench, open ended and boxed; adjustable wrenches, vice grips, hammers and smaller wreches. Bleh. So I still have about .6L of old oil in there. Oh well.

I'll find a good 6 sided socket somewhere later and re-place the plug at the next oil change. In the meantime I'm just content to have changed the oil myself for the first time, and bunged the dealer out of way too much money for an oil change ($90 an hour labour?).

I just wanted to rant a bit about how dealers (in accordance with the f650.com FAQ) consistently over-tighten the sump plug. That's all.

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I would never use a 12-point socket on a drain plug. Asking for trouble.
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:37 AM   #3
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I would never use a 12-point socket on a drain plug. Asking for trouble.
Lessone learned. But still.

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Old 06-26-2007, 03:28 AM   #4
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Van Isle,

I had to use a big long cheater bar and the plug popped like a rifle shot the first time I changed my oil. A 6 pt socket with the bevel milled off is what you need. My husband fixed one up for me and it doesn't wallow on the plug at all. NameBrand (NB) over on F650.com will sell you a milled socket cheap: http://f650.us/store.htm.

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Old 06-26-2007, 10:47 AM   #5
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I would never use a 12-point socket on a drain plug. Asking for trouble.
At least not on a BMW, that's fer sure.

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Old 06-26-2007, 09:34 PM   #6
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If you are stuck replacing the drain plug anyway, try a pipe wrench. If you want to salvage the plug, don't use a pipe wrench. You may have better luck with a standard size (1 1/16 or 1 1/4?) as it is a smiggen tighter than a 30mm and easier to find.
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Old 06-27-2007, 04:03 AM   #7
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If you are stuck replacing the drain plug anyway, try a pipe wrench. If you want to salvage the plug, don't use a pipe wrench. You may have better luck with a standard size (1 1/16 or 1 1/4?) as it is a smiggen tighter than a 30mm and easier to find.
That would be 15/16, which is a slightly tighter fit than the 24 mm. The cut-down chain gang socket is a Craftsman 15/16. One of these days I plan on making my own, but so far I've done OK with standard 15/16 sockets.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:51 AM   #8
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I have read how people are having trouble with the plug. I change my oil every 3k miles and never have had a problem with mine. I guess they are just over-tightening it?
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:40 AM   #9
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did you change the oil when it was hot or cold? it makes a difference. always changed all my scoots with a piping hot engine, not one stuck filter or plug.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:52 AM   #10
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Do not know BMWs but on my bike torque specs for oil drain plug is apparently for new crush washer and DRY threads. Way too high for oilly threads and used crush washer. FWIW.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:52 AM   #11
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I've got one of those sockets from NB for doing my oil - works good. Snap-on sells one without the bevel (which is what NB takes off), I forget what they're called but it's mentioned in the oil change FAQ on the chain gang.
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:54 AM   #12
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I'm following this thread for kicks... will probably replace my sump plug one of these days.

http://f650.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php...r=asc&start=15
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Old 06-30-2007, 05:43 AM   #13
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If you have access to a grinder of any type, it's pretty easy to grind the bevel off of a socket. It's what I did, and it makes getting the drain plug out much easier, and less worrisom.
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:36 AM   #14
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I have read how people are having trouble with the plug. I change my oil every 3k miles and never have had a problem with mine. I guess they are just over-tightening it?
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:49 PM   #15
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I try not to over-tighten it, but the previous owner sure did. That first oil change was a bear.

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