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Old 06-25-2008, 09:19 PM   #2461
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many of us said the same thing. Just dont ride a GS. Cause if you do, you will join us in our joy and sorrow ( if you expericence a FD failure or EWS).
THere is realy good news. GB is correct. There are no bikes or cars that do not have problems ( some percentage). The internet makes it look worse than it is. BMW atlanta was right. Ride and enjoy. To be honest, if you do not own a BMW and ride it, you will miss our on a tremendous motorcycle.
Look at it like this. Goldwings and Susuki had frame problems..ie crack in-half! You can not fix that on the side of the road. Many Goldwings have a serious front end instability. Scary as hell! The list goes on. Many makes have far more serious and dangerous problems. We are suffering ( to a small degree) because BMW incorporated the lastest and hopefully the best technology. The RA is a good idea as far as keeping bike from being stolen. Theifs know its useless...unless the plan on parting out the machine. BMW gave us servo brakes. After to many problems and many many complaints, they stopped building bikes w/ servo assist. If this RA & EWS continues, BMW will make changes. They did make changes w/ regard to the FD. Like so many have said. If all I need to carry is a $36 RA that can be plugged in at anylocaton in less than 5 mins.... then in the overall scheme of things...LIFE IS GOOD and the GS is AWESOME. Let not your heart be troubled. Ride a GS or whatever BMW you like. If you do like, buy and ride. Realy, no need to come here and make a post, rub our noses in the bad news. You wont hurt our feelings, we wont get rid of our BMW's and we WILL RIDE! Once you ride one for 20,000 miles, I bet you a steak dinner you will love the mark as much as we do. If you buy one and ride it for 20,000 miles, and dont like it..let me know. I will mail you a crisp $100.00 bill!

nuff said and go in peace!
You left out Victory Motorcycles. The first 3 years they made bikes with faulty tranny's! When the Gov't finally got involved. Victory"s reply was, the tranny had been built with a 30,000 mile life expectency. After further hounding by the owners. Victory relented and gave those that had it fail after warranty, $750. What a joke. Tom
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:28 PM   #2462
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RE a roadside repair.... My EWS hasn't failed, but I did remove the wiring cover, and test with a spare that I carry. I was able to lay the spare antenna ring over top of the installed original, so that the round ring is on top, while still being plugged in at the bottom. Inserting the key into the ignition, it goes through the attached spare antenna ring (besides the original). Bike started right up.

Point is - I don't see why you need to carry a second key.
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Old 06-25-2008, 09:44 PM   #2463
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We are all trying to resolve a really shitty problem that can not just ruin the enjoyment of a ride but can kill a rider. As stated a zillion times where and when you get stranded with an immobilized ignition can pose a very real threat to your life...
Phil, I'm really trying to wrap my mind around this concept. Granted, being possibly at the absolute worst ~ 200 miles from somewhere, and your bike doesn't restart after shutting it off, that could be a bad thing in say Africa or the Amazon. But who is really going to go there alone? And if they do, they should darn well have planned for something else that could happen along the way, don't you think?

If someone dies from dehydration, hypothermia, starvation, or an animal attack - all alone, because of an EWS failure they were probably in over their head to begin with... And should have planned better.

I'm sure BMW or any brand would feel bad after that one, but they, like any other manufacture is not really responsible for how someone uses the product. > 98% of these machines will probably never leave the major roads of their perspective countries, and rescue or road side services and they are betting on that...

This isn't an attack on you or your opinion, I just feel that people are over-blowing the hazards of something that won't start again or the next time.

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Old 06-25-2008, 10:04 PM   #2464
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How commom is EWS Failure on newer bikes?

I thought that the EWS failures were only on bikes equipped with the factory alarm. Apparently that is not correct. I assume my non-alarmed 08 GS Adventure has the EWS piece that has been failing. I have not had a problem but should I be concerned?

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Old 06-25-2008, 10:22 PM   #2465
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Did you check out the EWS failure thread, you can spend hours reading up on it. Your bike has an EWS antenna, so it could fail, I don't think anyone has posted a failure of the newer antenna part # ends in 247. But since the cause of the failure seems to be unknown or BMW isn't telling there is some possibility your bike could be affected, either carry a spare or figure statistically it is unlikely. It does seem to happen in the first few thousand miles.

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Old 06-25-2008, 10:51 PM   #2466
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Thanks for the info, Opus. I really appreciate it.

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Old 06-25-2008, 10:57 PM   #2467
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Although the poll on the EWS threadfest is closed, I thought I remember seeing about 5% of 1200s actually having the failure. Not a miniscule margin, but the odds are in our favor. That being said, I'm still going to carry a 247 antenna ring with me.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:57 PM   #2468
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Are there any warning signs?

I notice that my GSA (08, ~600 mi) about a quarter of the time doesn't respond to the starter button. I have to turn the ignition back off and on before it will start.
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Old 06-25-2008, 11:21 PM   #2469
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EWS failure

It seems that EWS failure is totally random. I was at the local BMW shop this weekend in Vegas and there was a rider from Washington getting his ring replaced. Who is to say when and if it will ever fail. I suppose it may be a good idea if you are in the middle of nowhere for an extended period of time or just want to be prepared to have a spare. It seems easy enough to replace. There are threads on bypassing it, I would rather keep it as stock as possible, I would go with a spare.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:27 AM   #2470
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Diagnostic Cable Request

Tried to order the diagnostic cable the Heldge spoke of in his DVD, but they have no idea what I am talking about

So I guess thats good to know that you can do the antenna like that.
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:37 AM   #2471
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Hey one things for sure. When I get my new 08 ( 2 weeks ) if anythings going to fail it will fail with me! So use me as your measuring stick
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Old 06-26-2008, 12:39 AM   #2472
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Seems to average about every 8th start.



















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Old 06-26-2008, 01:21 AM   #2473
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Just had 247 part installed at BMW under warranty.

Also they updated the software for the computer and said my fuel gauge should work properly now!

I asked how much a spare 247 would cost, the reply - AUD$175

So I'm glad it has been done under warranty.

Here's to hoping the bike doesn't leave me stranded again!

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Old 06-26-2008, 01:34 AM   #2474
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BMW has finally issued a recall on the antenna (why did it take them so long!!!)...get yours changed...and hope they got it right this time.. :-)
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Old 06-26-2008, 06:48 AM   #2475
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BMW has finally issued a recall on the antenna (why did it take them so long!!!)...get yours changed...and hope they got it right this time.. :-)
How do you know this?

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