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Old 07-09-2008, 05:29 PM   #2746
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Can you tell me what size allen head screws I should take to the dealer next week? Thanks.
I forgot - I'll let you know tomorrow...
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:37 PM   #2747
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Appointment this week

Based on this thread, called my service advisor and he acknowledged the "technical bulletin" so I have an appointment to have the ring replaced later this week. Parts and fasteners in stock. No fuss, no denials, no delay, just good old fashioned response to a customer that purchased a bike at their dealership. This is why I buy locally.

Thanks ADV Rider Forum and Foothills BMW/Triumph for the follow-up
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:41 PM   #2748
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Can you tell me what size allen head screws I should take to the dealer next week? Thanks.
8X25 socket head screws (allen head), BMW part # 07 11 9 904 102
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:53 AM   #2749
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Info on EWS and Software Upgrade

Guys,

I've been perusing this website for a while now, ever since I found my dream bike, an ’07 R1200GSA. In today’s market, when you’re 6’ 5” tall and 270 lbs it’s the only bike that fits. Bikes seem to be getting smaller every year and I am glad for those big Germans. Every day I ride it, I like it more.

Thank you to all who have contributed to this fantastic website, and to people like JimVonBaden who has taken it all to the next level for people who want to learn to work on their own machines.

I haven’t posted before because I haven had much to contribute but after reading pretty much anything and everything on GSpot, I am happy to say there’s something I can give back (I hope).

When I bought bike the dealer included the 800 mile (uhhh, I meant 600 mile) service in the deal. I took it in after waiting the usual 3 weeks to get into the que and was fortunate to get MANY answers from the service manager at BMWOR on the EWS “campaign” as well as the new software upgrade.

I had both done to my machine and have found that everything works (including the fuel gauge)….

Here’s what I learned:

1) EWS answers: The #207 and the previous version were installed on 06 and 07 machines and they were poorly manufactured. The two problems BMWOR has "heard of" are: a) Water gets into the housing and causes corrosion and / or a short = failure, and b) solder connections fail and the EWS stops working. This was attributed to the manufacturer of the device and after “extensive” testing, BMW has implemented the replacement program for owners with a part built by a different manufacturer. That sounds reasonable to me and as I said, so far my experience with the new part is good (although I didn’t experience an issue with the old one either, thank God).

2) Software Upgrade: This is a change to your fuel / air mixture, timing and a correction to the fuel gauge (as I understand it). BMWOR has a RH piston hanging on their service wall that they explained came out of a bike that had been ridden hard (fast acceleration, i.e. police bike) and it was fried due to being “set up lean probably to meet emissions requirements”. The explanation worked for me so I thought I’d share. I don’t notice anything different on my bike other than the fuel gauge really does work better.

Thanks again to all, and KEEP IT UP. I am sure there are many others like me who haven’t posted but who are benefiting.

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Old 07-10-2008, 08:26 AM   #2750
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The #207 and the previous version were installed on 06 and 07 machines and they were poorly manufactured. The two problems BMWOR has "heard of" are: a) Water gets into the housing and causes corrosion and / or a short = failure, and b) solder connections fail and the EWS stops working. This was attributed to the manufacturer of the device and after “extensive” testing, BMW has implemented the replacement program for owners with a part built by a different manufacturer.
So was it the same or different problem(s) with the -136 version, which succeeded the -207 and immediately preceded the -247?
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Old 07-10-2008, 08:58 AM   #2751
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not sure... they said the older ones didn't seem to have as many reported probelms.
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:02 AM   #2752
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I am curious how you jump started your bike since everything written so far says there is no way.

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I don't remember the details too well...but a buddy had jumper cables and we did it the old fashioned way. My key in, turned on, his bike was on and when I pressed the starter...it started. I had a spare key, so I left the bike on at the one and only gas stop and for any "breaks". Rode it straight to my home dealer and left it there for insurance assessment and repair. It was only after the ignition assly was replaced did I see the EWS threadfest...and now, I may have a "suspect" ring.
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:55 AM   #2753
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I don't remember the details too well...but a buddy had jumper cables and we did it the old fashioned way. My key in, turned on, his bike was on and when I pressed the starter...it started. I had a spare key, so I left the bike on at the one and only gas stop and for any "breaks". Rode it straight to my home dealer and left it there for insurance assessment and repair. It was only after the ignition assly was replaced did I see the EWS threadfest...and now, I may have a "suspect" ring.
Then it was most likely a dead battery. Not the EWS.
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Old 07-10-2008, 10:11 AM   #2754
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Then it was most likely a dead battery. Not the EWS.
Well, I'm not so sure...when I came down to the garage where my bike was parked, it had been moved and the little parking light was eerily glowing. When I put the key in (or maybe even before that) the EWS warning was showing on the display. I wish I could remeber the details better..it was early and I had been rudely awakened by the phone..."uh kam, I think somebody tried to steal your bike"..."why do you say that"...."well, its not where you parked it and one of the lights are on..."..."I"ll be right down!".

So, again, somehow we got it started, and it stayed on for the 300 mile ride home.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:15 PM   #2755
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not sure... they said the older ones didn't seem to have as many reported probelms.
The -136 is newer than the -207, but immediately preceded the latest -247. I had a failure with my -136 and was wondering if the -136 failures were attributable to the same issues you cited with the -207. It really is moot at this point, but I was just curious.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:36 PM   #2756
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Wish I knew about the #136, but, mine had the #207. Sorry.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:29 PM   #2757
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Called to schedule my antenna ring install. They are doing the antenna ring, an LED brake light recall (they apparently replace the whole brake light), and a software update.
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Old 07-10-2008, 01:56 PM   #2758
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Don't think you will be disapointed. Just make sure they have the steering head locknut on hand... the dealer stripped mine out because it had a 5mm hex on the bolt and a 19mm nut that needs to be torqued to 90+ ft lbs... apparently an $80 item that they didn't have in stock and it took several days to get.

They have to remove it in order to perform the EWS exchange.

The dealer did provide a loaner bike though and the service response was very good.
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:39 PM   #2759
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The 207 failed on our '08 K12S today. Abt 2K miles. 5 minutes to plug in a 247 and 45 minutes to figure how to make it look neat until it gets to the dealer.
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Old 07-10-2008, 03:58 PM   #2760
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Which Bikes DON'T Need To Remove Steering Head?

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Don't think you will be disapointed. Just make sure they have the steering head locknut on hand... the dealer stripped mine out because it had a 5mm hex on the bolt and a 19mm nut that needs to be torqued to 90+ ft lbs... apparently an $80 item that they didn't have in stock and it took several days to get.

They have to remove it in order to perform the EWS exchange.

The dealer did provide a loaner bike though and the service response was very good.
Some BMW models do not have to have the steering heads removed to replace the antenna...does anyone know which models do not need the steering head removed?

Thanks..

Ps..Cjack..sorry it bit you! Glad you were prepared.
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