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Old 07-16-2008, 06:07 AM   #2806
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Heh heh heh! No, but I did watch them push his bike to the service area. He was a nice guy and took it all in stride.
FWIW, I've found, hanging at the dealer while having my bikes serviced, seems MOST BMW owners don't frequent these websites. And seem blissfully happy with their bikes! The '06 KGT's had a lot of trouble with poor idling, varying RPM, and they sounded like crap (as did the '05 KS). I once asked a guy how come he didn't have the new ECU/VXXX.X of software put in, new airbox, etc. and he just said, "I thought it was supposed to run like that?" He of course never heard of the various BMW websites.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:15 AM   #2807
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FWIW, I've found, hanging at the dealer while having my bikes serviced, seems MOST BMW owners don't frequent these websites. And seem blissfully happy with their bikes! The '06 KGT's had a lot of trouble with poor idling, varying RPM, and they sounded like crap (as did the '05 KS). I once asked a guy how come he didn't have the new ECU/VXXX.X of software put in, new airbox, etc. and he just said, "I thought it was supposed to run like that?" He of course never heard of the various BMW websites.
I know what you mean. These websites are very helpful and fun, but they often present a skewed view. I've met some very nice folks and heard some neat stories from riders at the shops. I may be an extreme case, but I even like the people at my shop!
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:20 AM   #2808
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I may be an extreme case, but I even like the people at my shop!
Double ditto, never screw with your dentist, heart surgeon, or BMW mechanic; in increasing order of importance!
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:22 AM   #2809
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OK - so my turn now I have a very early 06 ADV and have just started getting itermittent EWS messages ... the first time I disconnected the battery and reconnected and this seemed to clear it and it started. It has since done it 3 more times and if I fiddle a bit, taking key out turning ignition on and letting it do its check thing it has eventually co-operated!?
Without reading all the thousands of posts - can anyone tell me if this has happened to them? I know that some say the EWS will show if the battery is failing but no indication of this (seems strong). I do have a 'spare' 2nd hand ring antenna which I could use if it really does not want to start so not too worried at the moment. My dealer says he is looking into a warranty swop even though it is just out of warranty by about 50 days. Holding thumbs for the 247.
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:03 AM   #2810
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Anybody out there been asked to pay extra because they had a Stieble horn installed, also have handle bar mounted XM radio and GPS, I was told those all had to be removed or I would be charged extra for the EWS recall work to be done.

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Old 07-16-2008, 08:10 AM   #2811
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Anybody out there been asked to pay extra because they had a Stieble horn installed, also have handle bar mounted XM radio and GPS, I was told those all had to be removed or I would be charged extra for the EWS recall work to be done.

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Now there is a load of shite if ever! Guess they reckon extra time to disconnect and reconnect them is their cost.
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Old 07-16-2008, 11:26 AM   #2812
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Anybody out there been asked to pay extra because they had a Stieble horn installed, also have handle bar mounted XM radio and GPS, I was told those all had to be removed or I would be charged extra for the EWS recall work to be done.

Just Bob.
Well, in your defense, that's sucky. In the dealer's defense, BMW is only paying us 7 frus to do the job, which equals .58 of an hour. This is a very hard job to do in that amount of time. Especially if there are tons of farkles installed on the bike which requires possible removal, reinstall, etc.
And with about 17,XXX affected bikes out there, that's alot of $$$ we are going to loose on warranty claims
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Old 07-16-2008, 12:17 PM   #2813
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I had my 12k service done to day and the replaced my EWS. I was not expecting that. It was replaced because of a warranty as I was told. They also did a Computer upgrade. I went back and Spoke to the service tech. I wanted to know more about the computer upgrade not about the EWS. He started telling me about it and before I was able to cut him off because I Thought I knew all I need to know about it from this forum he started telling me that either HP or a Company in Spain made the first batch and they were good and some time after that switched to a"better cheaper" model and Those were the bad ones. he said he not Could get the hole Story from BMW they are being tight Lip about it.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:40 PM   #2814
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OK - so my turn now I have a very early 06 ADV and have just started getting itermittent EWS messages ... the first time I disconnected the battery and reconnected and this seemed to clear it and it started. It has since done it 3 more times and if I fiddle a bit, taking key out turning ignition on and letting it do its check thing it has eventually co-operated!?
Without reading all the thousands of posts - can anyone tell me if this has happened to them? .
--> For starters, please refer to post #2239 by ALTO, pg. 150 of this thread. If you are willing to try the recommended procedure, please tell us whether it worked for you or not. For comparison, my RF antenna P/N ends in ...136 (but I always carry a spare with me).

Please note, the procedure with the kill switch described in post #2239 is just a preventive measure, not a remedy, i.e., it will not restart your bike once EWS! appears on the display.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:31 PM   #2815
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It was my understanding also that keys do not "contaminate" keys but two keys can confuse the antenna..

Also buried in these posts are "EWS' warnings generated by dead or dying battery....not in my owner's book, but folks have reported it.
Ffing A....My 08 GSA wouldn't start this afternoon out at my farm...just a slight click from the key switch area. It'd been just fine during the 30 mile ride, then I shut it off to use my cell phone and....zip, nada, nothing. I farted around with it a bit, checked the battery connections, etc., nothing. Called my dealer, he said look for the dreaded code, yup..there's the "ews". He said not to worry, he's got tons of them in stock...so my son brings a trailer out and we haul the bike home.

Just in case it was a weak battery causing the problem, we pop the seat and give it a jump from my pickup. She fires right up...hummmm. So I shut it off and try it without the boost.....nothing. She's sitting in the garage right now being pumped full of juice. That's probably all it is....but now I have an excuse for a 300 mile ride to OKC BMW to have it checked.
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Old 07-17-2008, 10:40 PM   #2816
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EWS: Am I missing something?

Am I the only one who feels this feature may have sounded like a good idea at the time to the pointy-headed engineers. . . but in the real world it's a source of new and imaginative strings of 4-letter words? (Happened to me! )
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Old 07-18-2008, 02:28 AM   #2817
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Am I the only one who feels this feature may have sounded like a good idea at the time to the pointy-headed engineers. . . but in the real world it's a source of new and imaginative strings of 4-letter words? (Happened to me! )
It seems that the anti-theft system BMW has installed is due to a requirement from DoT (as in US Department of Transportation).

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Old 07-18-2008, 06:35 AM   #2818
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It seems that the anti-theft system BMW has installed is due to a requirement from DoT (as in US Department of Transportation).

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Nope, possibly a Euro requirement, but not mandated here.

It might be changing, but BMW theft here was very tiny.

The people looking for used parts are so anal about where they come from and the history of how it was used that it is too much trouble to move used parts. (I think thats a good thing) Like I said that might be changing.


Sportbikes are stolen here just for their bodywork. HDs are hard to hold onto as well.
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Old 07-18-2008, 07:54 AM   #2819
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Ffing A....My 08 GSA wouldn't start this afternoon out at my farm...just a slight click from the key switch area. It'd been just fine during the 30 mile ride, then I shut it off to use my cell phone and....zip, nada, nothing. I farted around with it a bit, checked the battery connections, etc., nothing. Called my dealer, he said look for the dreaded code, yup..there's the "ews". He said not to worry, he's got tons of them in stock...so my son brings a trailer out and we haul the bike home.

Just in case it was a weak battery causing the problem, we pop the seat and give it a jump from my pickup. She fires right up...hummmm. So I shut it off and try it without the boost.....nothing. She's sitting in the garage right now being pumped full of juice. That's probably all it is....but now I have an excuse for a 300 mile ride to OKC BMW to have it checked.
Steve...do as I do in my shop..my '07 GSA is always on the BMW [expensive but it works] battery charger plugged into the power outlet behind seat..or it is being ridden!
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Old 07-18-2008, 08:59 AM   #2820
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Steve...do as I do in my shop..my '07 GSA is always on the BMW [expensive but it works] battery charger pluged into the power outlet behind seat..or it is being ridden!
Hi Phil,
Just thought I interject some comments re: batteries and chargers. I have the expensive one and don't use it at all. It's a shortcoming on my part in that I just don't trust the handshaking with the CAN-bus being consistent. Also, JVB has f*ed up my head (as have others) that leaving the bike on a charger is nonsense if you ride regularly, which we do in FL

I recently came back from a two week road trip and found the battery in my '07 ADV tits up! (garage talk for NFG). Trekked[the bad battery] it to BMW Daytona and was informed that yup, it's NFG. I was also told the black ones (mine was black) were failing a lot more than gray ones They gave me a gray one. So, back to JVB and my Deltran Battery Tenders that are supposed to stop sulfation a la float charge, blah, blah. Did I fry the battery? Hmmmm? Good question, likely will never know for sure. So have compromised my regimen, I now only wait until the Battery Tender renders a glowing green/full-charge and I disconnect the damn things. Thanks Jim, for screwing with my head!

And I offer the following comment that I did not originate: With a small enough data sample one can prove just about anything!
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