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Old 07-21-2008, 05:40 PM   #2836
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John,

Sorry I did not follow that....are you saying that the BMW battery charger listed in the Owner's Manual [don't have number right now] that allows charging through the accessory outlet port may fail to charge the battery even if the correct intialization sequence was followed? I have been using mine for over a year and during the winter there isn't any riding here, so it has sat on the charger for at least 5 months without being run. Perhaps I am just mis-understanding. If folks are finding dead batteries after leaving it plugged in..my bet is that they never correctly hooked it up...as you know a very specific sequence is required.

Oh yes you mentioned the LED showed full charge..it periodically cycles through all the LEDs hence there should be times when the green light is not on...
As far as I have been able to tell, any charger will keep the port on if you plug in the charger when the port is on. Then when the charger, any charger, goes to float and the charging current goes to nil, the port will turn off. And it will not restart unless the port is turned on again by the key. I do not think there is anything unique about the BMW charger as to turning on the port or keeping it on after going to float.
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Old 07-21-2008, 08:29 PM   #2837
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[quote=cjack]As far as I have been able to tell, any charger will keep the port on if you plug in the charger when the port is on. Then when the charger, any charger, goes to float and the charging current goes to nil, the port will turn off. And it will not restart unless the port is turned on again by the key. I do not think there is anything unique about the BMW charger as to turning on the port or keeping it on after going to float.[/quote]

I did not bring up [from my shop] the number of the charger required for my '07 GSA and the AGM [absorbed glass mat] battery...but once you: #1 intialize the CanBus [by turning on the ignition and allowing ECU to go through "check" intialization] and #2 then plug in the BMW charger to the accessory power outlet [under and behind left rear of seat on frame] and #3 then plug in AC power to the charger ...you turn off the key and forget about it...the charger cycles through the necessary charging sequency and the CanBus never shuts it off..period. You do not need to periodically 'restart the port'.

I do not know if other chargers are as compatible with the CanBus system as this BMW charger...and therefore I can't speak to other brands of chargers causing the port to shut down. My BMW Owners Manual is very explicit about only using this charger with the AGM/CanBus/outlet charging set-up...if you have a similar bike look it up..I seem to remember it was on page 128.

Ps..Sorry this is way off EWS.
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Old 07-21-2008, 08:37 PM   #2838
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There is a Manual Override for that.


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Old 07-21-2008, 08:47 PM   #2839
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There is a Manual Override for that.

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Old 07-25-2008, 08:01 AM   #2840
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I just spoke to BMW Miami and found out that there is an official recall on this issue. I will be taking my 1200GSA in to get it replaced next week.
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:36 AM   #2841
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I just spoke to BMW Miami and found out that there is an official recall on this issue. I will be taking my 1200GSA in to get it replaced next week.
"Official Recall"...How are owners going to be notified? Please ask your BMW Miami person...or did they call you?

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Old 07-25-2008, 10:40 AM   #2842
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I called my dealer after finding the brake line recall to see if my bike needed to come in. He asked me for my vin and told me that although I do not need to come in for the brakes that I do need to come in to get my antennae replaced. Call your dealer, don't take no for an answer!
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:50 AM   #2843
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OK..But For The Record Not A Recall..

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I called my dealer after finding the brake line recall to see if my bike needed to come in. He asked me for my vin and told me that although I do not need to come in for the brakes that I do need to come in to get my antennae replaced. Call your dealer, don't take no for an answer!
I know that if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it probably is a duck...but in the official bafflegabble of BMW lexicon this is not a recall but a replacement based on a Service Information Bulletin...

Sorry guys but BMW really does have their heads up their collective asses...owners should be contacted since many don't have a clue about this EWS issue and could get stranded before finding out...

Double edged sword..I hate to turn loose a BMW mechanic on my bike...especially if BMW is not paying them for the time it really takes...simply amazing that all the way around BMW is "cheaping out"...WTF Over.
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Old 07-27-2008, 02:40 PM   #2844
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Pissed grrrr....

just had this EWS bulls**t happen to me....1200 km's on it. at least i was in an accessible place. just lame. but hey, at least the towing was free...
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Old 07-27-2008, 03:36 PM   #2845
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just had this EWS bulls**t happen to me....1200 km's on it. at least i was in an accessible place. just lame. but hey, at least the towing was free...
Vortex...What bike? Free towing? Guess again..we all pay a premium.. a big one when we buy the overpriced bike...

Sorry you got snake bit..
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Old 07-27-2008, 03:40 PM   #2846
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Vortex...What bike? Free towing? Guess again..we all pay a premium.. a big one when we buy the overpriced bike...

Sorry you got snake bit..
sorry Wallowa, it's a 1200GS...I guess it just makes a guy a little p.o'd...could be worse though, I could have been cruising through Guatemala! lol!
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Old 07-27-2008, 04:31 PM   #2847
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Well guys...

I'm back from my first part of my ride.

2 weeks ago, I had my 06 1200 GS at BMW Denver for the 18k service and the damn thing had the EWS fault while he was running the final diagnostics on the bike. Boy I was lucky.


Here is a little tidbit about the EWS failure.

*** BMW is NOT notifying owners as a recall.

*** You CAN call your local dealer and get the new EWS ring upgrade and BMW pays for this.

*** Also, BMW NA is only paying the dealer .7 credits to do the job, so if it takes them longer, the dealership has to eat the remaining time, but you still pay NOTHING.

The service tech that did mine has a stack of prolly 20 that he had pulled off in the last week.
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Old 07-27-2008, 07:24 PM   #2848
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Do we know what model years this covers? I'm way to busy (lazy) to read the archives.


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Well guys...



Here is a little tidbit about the EWS failure.

*** BMW is NOT notifying owners as a recall.

*** You CAN call your local dealer and get the new EWS ring upgrade and BMW pays for this.


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Old 07-28-2008, 07:41 PM   #2849
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I'm assuming this only applies to bikes within the VIN range posted previously.
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:04 PM   #2850
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Since the second antenna's gone onto my bike. I have not killed the engine with the handlebar mounted Kill Switch. It was bought up at the dealer, and again in general discussion with a Seimens/VDO employee about the possibility of this causing a failure in 'something' that destroys the antenna.

Two questions:

1) Any of you guys with failures of the newer antennas used the kill switch on the bars then found it won't start?

2) Anyone tried a 'dead' antenna on another bike? I think this has been done, but theres alot of pages to wade through

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