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Old 10-28-2008, 01:59 AM   #3076
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Rang dealer. He said keep trying, dont wait for the "startup sequence" - did that and once, it went. I rode off home.


Had this EWS fault with my 07'MM. Used the above technique and it worked for about 15 - 20 times before I could get it to the dealer. Hit start as soon as you turn on the key. Maybe just lucky.
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Old 10-28-2008, 04:46 AM   #3077
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Well, BMW must be listening because on the K1300, the immobilizer is optional!
I don't think so.
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:04 AM   #3078
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I don't think so.
You don't think it is optional or you don't think BMW is listening? According to the specs on the official website, it is optional on the new K1300GT (unless dealers order all of them with it) so I assume you are referring to BMW listening but it wasn't clear to me.

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Old 10-28-2008, 06:55 AM   #3079
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You don't think it is optional or you don't think BMW is listening? According to the specs on the official website, it is optional on the new K1300GT (unless dealers order all of them with it) so I assume you are referring to BMW listening but it wasn't clear to me.

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A line from BMW Motorrad at the INTERMOT 2008

Electronic immobiliser featured as standard.

I know that it was listed somewhere as part of the optional equipment, but I would be surprised if that was not a mistake or mis-translation.
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:57 AM   #3080
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It may be standards in Germany to have the immobilizer as it may be TUV (their DOT) mandated. In Canada, all cars must have a built in electronic immoblizer as of 2009 or 2010.

So, maybe for the US market, the immobilizer may be an option, we'll see.. I kinda doubt it's going to be an option.
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Old 10-28-2008, 02:39 PM   #3081
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EWS - Other faults

Hello All.

No, i haven't read all 3000 posts about this fault.

I have a 2006 1200GS that has displayed an EWS fault. The difference with mine is that it starts for a couple of seconds then stops and displays EWS. Have also found that if i hold the throttle on and rev it at about 4000RPM i can convince the bike that it should be running and eventually after 30 seconds or so all returns to normal. Typically the EWS error seems to result in the bike being completely dead and not turning over at all. Mine does start but then stops. This problem is totally intermittent just to make it interesting.

My dealer has advised me that the EWS error can relate to other faults as well as the antenna ring issue. They "think" it may be a fuel pump module or something but don't really know.

Has anyone heard of the EWS fault being related to anything other than the antenna ring issue?

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Old 10-28-2008, 09:55 PM   #3082
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Has anyone heard of the EWS fault being related to anything other than the antenna ring issue?
Yes. Start with having your battery load tested.

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:06 AM   #3083
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[Yes. Start with having your battery load tested.]

Okay..... Thank you for the reply. Then what?

Just what am i looking for? The battery is fine and i believe is completely unrelated to the problem.

You replied "yes" to having an EWS error indicating another fault. Any chance you could be a little more specific in regards to the problem and symptoms you experienced? Did the bike start and die after a few seconds? Was it hard to start? Was the problem intermittent or did it get progressively worse and then fix itself with a new battery?

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:47 AM   #3084
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[Yes. Start with having your battery load tested.]

Okay..... Thank you for the reply. Then what?

Just what am i looking for? The battery is fine and i believe is completely unrelated to the problem.

You replied "yes" to having an EWS error indicating another fault. Any chance you could be a little more specific in regards to the problem and symptoms you experienced? Did the bike start and die after a few seconds? Was it hard to start? Was the problem intermittent or did it get progressively worse and then fix itself with a new battery?

Thanks again

Dave
He meant yes, the battery can cause issues with the EWS. Also, if you have other problems, like with your key, you can get an EWS.

As for the start then die, no, that is not an EWS issue, or hard starting, but a battery could cause that, or a bad connection. How did you load test your battery?

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Old 10-29-2008, 09:03 AM   #3085
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Ya, bmw should have recalled all the affected bikes, not just those who happen to ride in for service... but.. ADVrider inmates who are on here regularly had their antennae replaced, thanks to the timely info that appears here!
There still is the rare occurrence of an earlier model failing. I checked my 05's vin to see if it was part of the campaign and obviously it wasn't. It was the furthest thing from my mind of failing on my 4,000 mile journey recently, as the 05's have plenty else wrong with them at times. Well...it failed. The only thing you can do is carry a spare...no ifs ands or buts about it, because when it does fail, chances are you'll be out in the middle of nowhere getting gas trying to make time.
If they were going to recall, it would span ALL the years...
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:55 AM   #3086
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I hear you.. I carry the 247 ews part with me at all times.. and mine's an 05, but i guess the failure rate on 05 is much much lower than the new and improved parts they put on 07 which wasn't... but who really knows why and what goes on behind the scenes. It's not something we're privy to.
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:28 AM   #3087
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There still is the rare occurrence of an earlier model failing. I checked my 05's vin to see if it was part of the campaign and obviously it wasn't. It was the furthest thing from my mind of failing on my 4,000 mile journey recently, as the 05's have plenty else wrong with them at times. Well...it failed. The only thing you can do is carry a spare...no ifs ands or buts about it, because when it does fail, chances are you'll be out in the middle of nowhere getting gas trying to make time.
If they were going to recall, it would span ALL the years...
How many miles were on your bike when it failed? Sounds like I had better get myself a spare too.

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Old 10-29-2008, 11:31 AM   #3088
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How many miles were on your bike when it failed? Sounds like I had better get myself a spare too.

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I wouldn't bother. There is no garentee that his failure was actually the ring. The 05s with the 207 ring have so few failures that it just wouldn't be worth the trouble.

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Old 10-29-2008, 11:40 AM   #3089
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I wouldn't bother. There is no garentee that his failure was actually the ring. The 05s with the 207 ring have so few failures that it just wouldn't be worth the trouble.

Jim
Antenna rings are cheap, #10 torx [assuming same as on my bike] cheap..both are light weight and take up little room..

Stranded in BFE? Antenna may cure "EWS"...what other option is there?
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:01 PM   #3090
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Antenna rings are cheap, #10 torx [assuming same as on my bike] cheap..both are light weight and take up little room..

Stranded in BFE? Antenna may cure "EWS"...what other option is there?
Large assumption, and not nearly the only potential item that could strand you. I just ride and don't sweat it.

What spares do you carry Phil?

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