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Old 06-24-2007, 07:32 PM   #76
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Your black plastic spare key should start the bike. It did mine.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:03 PM   #77
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Your black plastic spare key should start the bike. It did mine.
adamr, you said you tried the "spare" key, is that a spare you had made, or is it the plstic spare that came with the bike? In any case, the plastic spare has a chip as well, so I doubt it will solve the problem.
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:45 AM   #78
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My 'spare' is the black plastic one that came w/the bike. It didn't work either.
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:56 AM   #79
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I was down in the little town of Tullahoma, Tennessee one Saturday evening earlier this month after a long day of twisty riding through the Great Smoky Mountains. My bike has a little over 22K miles on it. I pulled in to a hotel parking lot and turned the key off. I saw a better place to park and quickly switched the key on again - immediately after I turned it off - and I got an "EWS Error" message and the bike was immobilized (would not start).

Lucky for me it was a transient glitch. I shut the bike off for about a minute, then went through the normal boot-up procedure and it was fine. I have not had the bike on a code reader since then and I will be interested to see if and how this shows up.

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Old 06-25-2007, 06:10 AM   #80
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Rarely, but sometimes, disconnecting the battery for a minute has allowed the rider to get going again.

The couple times I have heard of this the rider has not had this repeat again, so it was not broken, but a glitch.

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Old 06-25-2007, 06:19 AM   #81
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Bob,

What you describe above sounds like your KEY might be failing. On a dual sport ride last month, a guy on a new GS ADV got the EWS off the beaten track, on a dirt trail.. just as we were about to tackle a steep quad track. The dealer who had organized the ride was there and he said he had had a few EWS ring antenna failures and a couple of keys go bad. He said the key symptoms was an intermittent EWS message, then the bike would work. Always carry a spare.

And short of reprogramming the BMS-K computer at the factory, there's no way to defeat or disable the immobilizer..
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:21 AM   #82
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Well that sucks. Anyone know how to hot wire a GSAdv when and if this happens? What if your 1000 miles from help?
After reading this post about the faulty immobiliser leaving you stranded I'm a bit worried about heading too far off the beaten track until I know how to bypass it.
Like BMW said to me, we'll come get ya under road side assist...as long as your on a main (gazetted) road...
Would replacing the ignition module bypass the immobilizer?

Hope your back on the road soon Adam

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Old 06-25-2007, 06:21 AM   #83
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I must've tried 15 times to start it over the course of two hours, but no luck. I'll try disconnecting & reconnecting the battery and seeing if that makes a difference.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:23 AM   #84
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Bob,

What you describe above sounds like your KEY might be failing. On a dual sport ride last month, a guy on a new GS ADV got the EWS off the beaten track, on a dirt trail.. just as we were about to tackle a steep quad track. The dealer who had organized the ride was there and he said he had had a few EWS ring antenna failures and a couple of keys go bad. He said the key symptoms was an intermittent EWS message, then the bike would work. Always carry a spare.

And short of reprogramming the BMS-K computer at the factory, there's no way to defeat or disable the immobilizer..
Thanks for the tip - I do not have a spare key so this is probably as good a time as any to order a new one and keep the current one as a spare. That is, provided I ever get the gas tank back on the bike!
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:26 AM   #85
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Thanks for the tip - I do not have a spare key so this is probably as good a time as any to order a new one and keep the current one as a spare. That is, provided I ever get the gas tank back on the bike!
Dificulties with the shock installation?

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Old 06-25-2007, 06:28 AM   #86
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I must've tried 15 times to start it over the course of two hours, but no luck. I'll try disconnecting & reconnecting the battery and seeing if that makes a difference.
We tried that a few times when the fellow was stuck on the off road trail, to no avail.. Roadside assistance had to make it all the way to the trail!

I just wish they would give us the option of disabling it permanently and riding without it.
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Dificulties with the shock installation?

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Old 06-25-2007, 06:39 AM   #88
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We tried that a few times when the fellow was stuck on the off road trail, to no avail.. Roadside assistance had to make it all the way to the trail!

I just wish they would give us the option of disabling it permanently and riding without it.
In this one case, I have to say I think BMW is working a non-issue here. It sure would be nice if they could simply throw a virtual switch and turn it off. I bet it IS possible.

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Old 06-25-2007, 06:45 AM   #89
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There's gotta be enough pressure from riders who want to venture off the beaten path or not.. just not have that thing.. I've not had an issue with it, but if I could get rid of it, I would.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:50 AM   #90
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All This Un-needed Gadgetry makes the new GS as useful as a parachute that does not OPEN

Very sad, since the Bikes are great.
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