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Old 05-31-2012, 11:04 PM   #5746
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I was at the local dealer today and wandered over to a new xr650l. Was surprising to see that the engine still appeared to be the same basic architecture as our old XL's nearly 30yrs later.
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:30 AM   #5747
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The 650L hasn't changed since '93 and its engine hasn't changed since '89. The kickstart-related parts from an '83 XL600 will actually fit in a 2012 650L.

EDIT: now that I say that, maybe only '85-87 XL parts will fit. The countershaft is involved with a swap and I looked in the manual to find that the XL has a different 1st gear ratio...
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:31 PM   #5748
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My son just bought a 86 xl600r and we want to know how do you guys check your oil?
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Old 06-02-2012, 04:26 PM   #5749
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Get it up to operating temperature and immediately check the oil level by setting the dipstick on the threads. Keep the bike upright on level ground, not leaning on the stand.
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Old 06-02-2012, 09:24 PM   #5750
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Get it up to operating temperature, shut it off, and immediately check the oil level by setting the dipstick on the threads. Keep the bike upright on level ground, not leaning on the stand.

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Old 06-02-2012, 11:43 PM   #5751
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I meant to put that there, but forgot. Yes, shut the engine off before checking the oil.
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Old 06-03-2012, 05:12 PM   #5752
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Old 06-04-2012, 05:52 PM   #5753
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yes, check compression, which will tell you something about the rings/valves. besides that, there is
the usual:

1. worn timing chain (approx $150-175, plus gaskets) - there will be clacking noise coming from the side of
the engine. worn rockers or camshaft will cost more. you have to take the engine out of the frame to get the
valve/rocker cover off.

2. oil pump check valve (relatively cheap) - this is where the oil doesn't want to stay in the frame

3. tires ($50-???/wheel)

4. broke/lose spokes (relatively cheap)

5. front brakes slave/master/hose (relatively cheap if you go after market)

6. all the gears work (lots of effort to fix) - you have to split the case for 90% of the transmission problems.

7. any leaks from the top end/base gasket (cheap but lots of effort) - you have to pull the engine out of the bike to get the valve/rocker cover off, even for the little o-ring on the cam chain tensioner shaft. thats why many xl600's will leak some oil on the top end, before it gets bad enough to bother pulling it out. just depends on how much that bothers you.

8. clutch, relatively minor/easy

over all, they are pretty bullet proof bikes with proper maintenance.
I have done #7 without removing the engine from the frame.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:43 PM   #5754
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Cable

Someone on here a week or so ago was looking for the decom cable from the kicker. I have one in very good condition.
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:15 PM   #5755
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I have done #7 without removing the engine from the frame.
that's pretty cool. are you sure it was a xl600r, I have been able to do it on most XR/XL including xr600r, except the xl600r. well, technically, it's possible to do it if you remove all the engine bolts and tilt the engine, while in the frame. in any case, it's a pain for a simple O-ring.
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Old 06-04-2012, 08:43 PM   #5756
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that's pretty cool. are you sure it was a xl600r, I have been able to do it on most XR/XL including xr600r, except the xl600r. well, technically, it's possible to do it if you remove all the engine bolts and tilt the engine, while in the frame. in any case, it's a pain for a simple O-ring.
Go to page 3. Yes it would defiantly be a pain if you had to remove the engine for a simple o-ring.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/957...ain-tensioner/
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:56 PM   #5757
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Someone on here a week or so ago was looking for the decom cable from the kicker. I have one in very good condition.
PM sent, thanks
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:06 PM   #5758
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Go to page 3. Yes it would defiantly be a pain if you had to remove the engine for a simple o-ring.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/957...ain-tensioner/
it just talks about replacing the camchain/tensioner/gear, I didn't see how you got the top end off with the engine in the frame. I'd really like to figure that out, since I have to replace a rocker box gasket on mine and have been putting it off. it's not like I haven't tried three or four times and given up in the past and then removed the engine. maybe there is a slight difference between a '83 and a '85 ?
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:14 PM   #5759
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just finished the rebuild on my 83









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Old 06-05-2012, 01:15 AM   #5760
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WTB oem silencer that fits a '93 XR600R

Looking for factory exhaust for '93 XR600R...I have the head pipe, need rear section...want to quiet it down a bit.

Can use exhaust off of: '83-'87 XL600R, '83-'84 XR500R and '91-'00 XR600.
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