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Old 08-07-2012, 05:28 AM   #5971
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Bought the bike. came with all kinds of goodies, came with extra tank, front fender, seat and an XR's only catalog from 1988
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Old 08-08-2012, 12:50 AM   #5972
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Laugh Soooo it's happened

After selling my tt 500 my wife finally had enough of my searching for a bike and stopping at every bike shop and bringing home qouates for everything. She told me to go by a bike and as it is i found My New to me 83 XL 600 R. The day i went to see it the owner told my he had be using it for off road riding only and it had been sitting for a year but he had had it running recently. To my suprise it fired right up after a few kicks had a good look over and and made an appointment to take it out for a ride the next day as i had not had to much hope about it when first described to me. So late afternoon the next day i show up and start a cold bike after a few kicks and take it for a blast around his neighbour hood in the middle of nowhere and I am sold as soon as the the second carb comes on and the bike rushs forward short story the deal is struck i buy the bike and pick it up on the way to work the next day. On my way home from the plant the next morning my fork seal is blown when i bottom out the trailer i am using to haul the bike no big deal I was going to change the oil and seals anyway right the bike as been sitting for a while. So i take the bike out in my neighbour for one last spin before i start to look into what my rose colour glasses has gotten me into again. This time i bump stop the bike and can not get it to restart hot lots of reasons for this right . So i start to strip the plastic of the bike so i can see what i have brought home and in the air box i find my air filtering has been at the benifit of a family of mice. Soooo any advice on a path forward as i would like to return this bike to the road and was looking for a good parts source here in ontario canada.Also thing that i should look into before going whole hog on a tear down and rebuild as i would like to do some riding before winter is here.
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Old 08-08-2012, 10:26 AM   #5973
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Front Sprocket Cover

Been searching a couple of months for a front sprocket cover (the one that keeps the chain from eating stator wires and pant leg) for an 84 XL600R. Part has been discontinued, and can't find used. Any suggestions or spares?
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:46 PM   #5974
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How about this one??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRONT-SPROCK...8cbca0&vxp=mtr
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Old 08-08-2012, 05:50 PM   #5975
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Or this one?



http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Honda-X...c88698&vxp=mtr
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Old 08-08-2012, 07:36 PM   #5976
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These turned up in the post today from the other side of the world..
I thought not bad for $28 Aussie.



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Old 08-08-2012, 07:53 PM   #5977
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These turned up in the post today from the other side of the world..
I thought not bad for $28 Aussie.



What is the Number on this Carbs ????
I spot some differences to the XL600R Carbs i have .

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Old 08-08-2012, 08:25 PM   #5978
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I posted a good XL600R engine and other parts in the Flea Market.


http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...6#post19317166


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Old 08-09-2012, 01:37 AM   #5979
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I'm guessing 83 or 84, what the difference between an A carb and an AC carb
According to this ebay linky, carbs are '85-'86. The ebay ones are virtually identical to the ones I have.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CARBURETO...item1e63e7704c

Bit dark in the shed now to have a look at carby numbers, I'll have a look in daylight.
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:46 AM   #5980
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According to this ebay linky, carbs are '85-'86. The ebay ones are virtually identical to the ones I have.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CARBURETO...item1e63e7704c

Bit dark in the shed now to have a look at carby numbers, I'll have a look in daylight.
That will be better , don't belive the E Bay Seller .
Just he remove it from a XL 600 R does not mean that the Carbs belong to a XL 600 R

On the Right Side you find the Number PH 61 or 68 or 52 and some more
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:48 AM   #5981
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This is right after I unloaded this swine, too many stickers for me! I've since removed all the junk.



Here is after tuning it and checking everything out. First ride after buying it. second time total. You can see my guardian angel right on the engine head.



I have an extra gas tank with no dents, a seat from an XR and a fender that isn't shaved Any tips on getting this seat to work? It would make my bike look a whole hell of alot nicer looks brand new. it is the same shape, it just don't want to go on. Pretty sure I need to fab it a lil.

.I love the powerband on this thing! it's real trackable. Took the swine out to the desert first thing cuz the man said it hasn't seen dirt in 4 years, OK! I can fix that. All i have to say is it eats the desert sand. Next time those motocross kids are roosting their 250s in my face, I'm just gonna open that throttle up.

The bungee cord IS NOT holding the seat on.

Technical mumbo jumbo

The engine had a total tear down and rebuild by Prime Performance in San Jacinto, California about 4 years and 3300 miles ago. The owner was a fat rich guy who wasn't even starting it right. He was telling me not to use the decomp lever. Sorry, I'm not a 250 lb lardo with a desk job. anyway, it runs beautifully, he said it was over bored but couldn't remember how much, the receipt isn't specific either, So I'm just going to say it is stock.

1 EBC clutch kit
6 steel clutch plates
rebuilt bottom end
rebuilt top end.
rebuilt front brake system

I'll take a picture of the receipt later. He spent $1,318.17 in all on the rebuild. everything was gone through. He bought it at yard sale from the original owner, he said it needed the valves adjusted. So then he bought it and took it to the shop and the work was "recommended" to be done. Only 8500~ miles at that time.

Beautiful engine! the only way you can tell its age is the paint job is fading after 29 years.
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:07 AM   #5982
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That will be better , don't belive the E Bay Seller .
Just he remove it from a XL 600 R does not mean that the Carbs belong to a XL 600 R

On the Right Side you find the Number PH 61 or 68 or 52 and some more
Ok, both on right side.
Carbys on bike have PH 68 C
Spare Carbys have PH 68 H
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:14 AM   #5983
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Ok, both on right side.
Carbys on bike have PH 68 C
Spare Carbys have PH 68 H
that is what i expect .
But what model bike you have ?
to my knowlege the PH 68 belong to a XL600 R F
the PH 68 is as far as i know 28 mm in dia. and was only used on the restricted 27 PS Version in europa
or on the California Model with all the emisions control shit .

I guess yours belong to the california model thats why your 68H has all this aditional vent nippels.

never see this model before

The 30 mm PH 61 used on the 44 PS / non California version is differnt .
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:20 AM   #5984
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Klaus, according to my Honda service manual, here in the USA the '83 model was the only year the bike had the 30 mm carbs. 1984 and later all received the 28 mm ones.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:56 AM   #5985
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Hi

I am more and more surprized how many differnt Carbs Honda put on that bike .
Looks like USA and Germany get different Carbs in differnt years.

The German documents list the 30 mm PH61 from 83-87 for the R and the 28 mm PH69 for the LM/RM
Thats for all models and countrys and in the German Forums i have never seen a different one .
And all the german XL 600 R heads have 30 mm inlets
and the PH 68 only for the RF with 27 HP
except switzerland , thats like california a differnt story

If you get in USA in 84 already the smaller Carbs , what about the heads ? Are the 84 XL heads from USA Bikes
30 or 28 mm ?

The english manual from 84 lists for the R in 83 a PH60 and for 84 a PH64 except CA with a PH66 or 68
The PH61 is not listet there .

But in the english Parts List for all countrys is mainly the PH61 listet , but USA is not inc.in that List .

Some other numbers are PH62 , PH83 ,PH67,PH65 for the R .
LM and RM had always PH69

I would like to know what are the excact differces between all this numbers .
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