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Old 04-03-2013, 05:44 PM   #7261
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Got to learn how to use my multimeter thanks to youtube and I found my book so I could finally jump in.

My ignition coil is dead

Primary 0.2 spec is 0.8

Secondary 14.29K spec is 4.1K

Ebay, here I come!
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:44 PM   #7262
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Gas cap

Anyone got a cap for the stock XL tank? One without a lock. I don't know why I have a locking cap on my bike, and it for some reason just bugs me. So if someone has a spare non-locking cap around let me know so I can talk you out of it.

Chris

PS- I want one of your braces to Crobox
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:59 PM   #7263
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Anyone got a cap for the stock XL tank? One without a lock. I don't know why I have a locking cap on my bike, and it for some reason just bugs me. So if someone has a spare non-locking cap around let me know so I can talk you out of it.

Chris

PS- I want one of your braces to Crobox
Here is one

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1983-HOND...item35c24891c7
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:18 AM   #7264
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here's my new '83 xl 600R :) , just traded it for my snowmobile , just one problem... battery won't charge .. any solutions guys ??
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Old 04-04-2013, 09:30 AM   #7265
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Thanks for the compliments about the brace, guys.

Unfortunately it doesn't make much sense for me to make stuff like this for other people because I am just one guy with some older manual machine tools, so it takes me most of a full day to make something like that brace and it wouldn't be cost-effective to start making them for sale. In other words they'd be too expensive, especially when you take into account that a brace can be purchased on the web for around $100.00. If I could get my CNC machine working, then it would be a different story. But I've had that machine for 8 years, not running, and I'm not smart enough to bring it back to life. I did make an exhaust adapter for my Cummins 4BT swap into my Scout a few years back (post # 70 on this page), and that adapter was something that simply could not be found anywhere else. For that reason I was able to sell a few of those to other Cummins geeks for about $300.

Anyway, I rode the XL last night for the first time with the brace, and also for the first time at night, and also for the first time with a 16 tooth front sprocket (16/41). The brace worked great... no more front end wobbles. The dual headlights are AWESOME. The whole damn road is lit up, in a very wide angle. On bright setting the illumination rivals any car I've driven. And the 16 tooth front sprocket makes the bike very "leggy" .... too much so in fact. I'll go back to 15/41 today, and then maybe experiment with 15/40 or 15/39, if I can find those sprockets. By the way, a 16 tooth sprocket is, I believe, the biggest one you can stuff in the front.

Cheers,
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Old 04-04-2013, 11:34 AM   #7266
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16T is the largest sprocket you can physically run up front, in fact it kinda scrapes on the front cover a bit too. I ran 16/45 on mine for many many miles, the only drawback I found was 1st gear was a little high for some offroad adventures. When my crankshaft broke last year and I had to split the cases I put in an NX 5th gear which enables me to run a 15T front and have an overall ratio in fifth that is close to stock fifth and a 16T.

I am running a 14/45 now and kind if like it, it gives me a lower first and approximately the same fifth as a stock box with the stock gearing 15/45.
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:46 PM   #7267
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Got to learn how to use my multimeter thanks to youtube and I found my book so I could finally jump in.

My ignition coil is dead

Primary 0.2 spec is 0.8

Secondary 14.29K spec is 4.1K

Ebay, here I come!
I purchased a new one off bike bandit for not too much money, around $40 I believe (unlike the coils for my Shadow .... like $100 a piece!)

I think it'd be worth getting a Honda part for that, but that's just my opinion. Good luck!
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:40 PM   #7268
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I bought a Caltric, seems like a decent company
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Old 04-04-2013, 08:54 PM   #7269
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here's my new '83 xl 600R :) , just traded it for my snowmobile , just one problem... battery won't charge .. any solutions guys ??
The charging system is a separate set of coils on the stator from the ignition and lights. The bike can run and not charge if those burn out, happened to me.

You need to do some tests on the stator first, then there is a rectifier and a regulator after that. There should be 14 volts or so coming out of two leads on the stator for lights, and charging. The ignition will put out quite a bit more, like 60 or more volts at idle..
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:09 AM   #7270
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Thanks for the compliments about the brace, guys.

Unfortunately it doesn't make much sense for me to make stuff like this for other people because I am just one guy with some older manual machine tools, so it takes me most of a full day to make something like that brace and it wouldn't be cost-effective to start making them for sale. In other words they'd be too expensive, especially when you take into account that a brace can be purchased on the web for around $100.00. If I could get my CNC machine working, then it would be a different story. But I've had that machine for 8 years, not running, and I'm not smart enough to bring it back to life. I did make an exhaust adapter for my Cummins 4BT swap into my Scout a few years back (post # 70 on this page), and that adapter was something that simply could not be found anywhere else. For that reason I was able to sell a few of those to other Cummins geeks for about $300.

Anyway, I rode the XL last night for the first time with the brace, and also for the first time at night, and also for the first time with a 16 tooth front sprocket (16/41). The brace worked great... no more front end wobbles. The dual headlights are AWESOME. The whole damn road is lit up, in a very wide angle. On bright setting the illumination rivals any car I've driven. And the 16 tooth front sprocket makes the bike very "leggy" .... too much so in fact. I'll go back to 15/41 today, and then maybe experiment with 15/40 or 15/39, if I can find those sprockets. By the way, a 16 tooth sprocket is, I believe, the biggest one you can stuff in the front.

Cheers,
C
That sucks that you can't make some of those braces I've been wanting to get fork braces for a while, and I thought it'd be cool to have something made by a fellow advrider

I just read your threads on the Scout, there's some good reading there! I hope I eventually acquire skills to do cool projects.
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:20 AM   #7271
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That sucks that you can't make some of those braces I've been wanting to get fork braces for a while, and I thought it'd be cool to have something made by a fellow advrider
Look here
http://www.fastfromthepast.com/servl...-XL600R/Detail
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:33 PM   #7272
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That sucks that you can't make some of those braces I've been wanting to get fork braces for a while, and I thought it'd be cool to have something made by a fellow advrider

I just read your threads on the Scout, there's some good reading there! I hope I eventually acquire skills to do cool projects.
Thanks man.

I guess what I was trying to say was that I could make those, theoretically, but they'd cost about three times as much as the "Fast from the Past" brace, and I doubt anyone would really want to pay that much. One guy, working by himself.... it just takes a long time to make stuff like that.

PM me if you REALLY want one, and we'll talk.

Thanks again about the Scout. I re-read some of my threads recently, and I'm not even sure about some of what I was talking about. It's funny... you get so deep into a project and you start using all this lingo that makes sense to all the dudes who are "in" it with you, but probably doesn't make much sense to anyone else. Anyway, it was fun. And I still drive the Scout.

Cheers,
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:42 PM   #7273
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16T is the largest sprocket you can physically run up front, in fact it kinda scrapes on the front cover a bit too. I ran 16/45 on mine for many many miles, the only drawback I found was 1st gear was a little high for some offroad adventures. When my crankshaft broke last year and I had to split the cases I put in an NX 5th gear which enables me to run a 15T front and have an overall ratio in fifth that is close to stock fifth and a 16T.

I am running a 14/45 now and kind if like it, it gives me a lower first and approximately the same fifth as a stock box with the stock gearing 15/45.
I took the 16 tooth front sprocket off, mostly because with the 16/41 I was running I could not get any slack in the chain. Even on the "slackest" setting at the rear axle, the chain was taught. Of course it's also true that the gearing was a little too tall, even though I do sorta like to go fast on the highway and I'm not really trail-riding the bike right now.

I'm currently looking around for a 14 tooth front and a 39 tooth rear. I would run a 15 front with the 39 rear for regular street duty (2.6:1 ratio), and carry a 14 front with me if I go on a dual-sport trip, so I could swap it out (2.786:1 ratio). These two ratios nicely bracket the ratio I've been riding lately, which is 2.733:1 from a 15/41 setup, which I feel is slightly low for the highway and slightly high for the dirt. That's what I'm thinking at the moment, anyway.

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Old 04-05-2013, 02:51 PM   #7274
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crobox: You might try running it without the guts of the supertrap (straight pipe) that should lean it out a bit to further test your theorey. Should only take a few minutes to do.

I've been thinking about this comment since I read it about a week ago. I am just now grasping the fundamentals of carburetion and jetting, but the role of the exhaust is frankly still a bit of a mystery to me.

Like I said, I've been pondering the comment, and I'm confused. To my way of thinking, a stopped-up muffler would keep more air in the cylinder during the exhaust stroke, thereby increasing the total amount of air in the mixture and making the mix lean.
Conversely, it seems to me that a free-flowing pipe would move air out of the cylinder more efficiently, reducing the total amount of air, thereby making the mix rich.

But all this hypothesizing is actually opposite of what you are saying. I totally believe that I am wrong... I just don't really understand why....

Can anyone explain?

Cheers,
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More airflow for a fixed amount of fuel causes leanness regardless of what causes the increased airflow.
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