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Old 05-10-2013, 09:52 PM   #7576
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What's the story on that flat tracker looking bike in the background?

It's a Honda FTR 223, I changed the Exhaust and also installed a K&N air filter, removed the original Air box, and it looks sweet....

I still have to pass a reamer through the main jet though...a bit too lean...Check the exhaust diameter out...


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Old 05-10-2013, 09:54 PM   #7577
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I was wondering if someone was going to ask about this. My bike is the XL600RMG, with the xr600 electric start motor, so it may differ slightly from the XL600R, l don't know for sure.
First, remove carbys and move as far back and down as possible. Remove top engine mounts from valve cover. Ive replaced the 8mm bolt in the middle of the valve cover with a threaded rod and a nut and copper washer, and l enlarged the hole for this bolt slightly.This allows me to remove this bolt completely before removing the cover. With this bolt still in place, it usually fouls the valve gear.
After removing all the 6mm bolts, slide the valve cover towards the carbys and down as far as you can and it will come out with a bit of jiggling. Getting the head and barrel off now is a piece of cake.
I did it this way last week with no problems. Turned out l had to remove and split the cases anyway so it was a wasted exercise, but nice to know it can be done if replacing a camchain or similar.
Good idea...
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:46 AM   #7578
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Hey guys, been out on the trails quite a bit recently and really enjoying the XL, the only downside has been the couple of times I've dropped it

It starts first kick normally, but, if it goes down it just doesn't want to start for a long time. I've tried the full procedure kicking with decomp etc, but, it just doesn't start....last time I was there for about 20 - 30 mins trying and getting knackered before it fired and then was too knackered to really enjoy the ride.

Have you guys got any top tips for starting it after a drop? Apart from not dropping it or getting fitter

I'm planning to ride it to Morocco in October, so, need to try and sort it before I hit that heat and sand. Alternatively may have to try and add electric start too, but, that sounds costly....
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:54 PM   #7579
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I haven't dropped mine enough to have proven advice on that question... but maybe close the petcock, drain the float bowls, kick it a few times with manual decomp, open the petcock again. Might help...
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:05 PM   #7580
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Hey guys, been out on the trails quite a bit recently and really enjoying the XL, the only downside has been the couple of times I've dropped it

It starts first kick normally, but, if it goes down it just doesn't want to start for a long time. I've tried the full procedure kicking with decomp etc, but, it just doesn't start....last time I was there for about 20 - 30 mins trying and getting knackered before it fired and then was too knackered to really enjoy the ride.

Have you guys got any top tips for starting it after a drop? Apart from not dropping it or getting fitter

I'm planning to ride it to Morocco in October, so, need to try and sort it before I hit that heat and sand. Alternatively may have to try and add electric start too, but, that sounds costly....
Usually its cuz the bowls overflow into the head when in its down. The engine being hot doesn't help any either.

Let it cool for about ten minutes, turn off the gas, and kick the bad mixture out of the cylinder a few (10-12) times, turn gas back on, kick one more time and you're off!! Don't ask me how I know this I had one dude swear there is something wrong with my bike cuz it would not start after I face planted at the dunes. No, it's just a turd
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Old 05-11-2013, 02:34 PM   #7581
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Has anybody laced up an 18" wheel to the rear? Any problems? The bike just does not look proportional with a 17" back there.
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:12 PM   #7582
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I think I read a few posts back about someone putting an 18'' wheel from an XL250
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Old 05-11-2013, 03:26 PM   #7583
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Has anybody laced up an 18" wheel to the rear? Any problems? The bike just does not look proportional with a 17" back there.
Not a good idea if you like your tire selection. The 17" and 21" combo have many options because lots of small adv and dual sport bikes run those sizes. The 18" and 21" combo is more of a straight dirt bike arrangement so you're down to buying mostly knobbys.
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Old 05-11-2013, 05:38 PM   #7584
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There was a time when 17" selections were limited, but not now. 21" has grown quite a bit too lately.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:59 PM   #7585
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Hey guys, been out on the trails quite a bit recently and really enjoying the XL, the only downside has been the couple of times I've dropped it

It starts first kick normally, but, if it goes down it just doesn't want to start for a long time. I've tried the full procedure kicking with decomp etc, but, it just doesn't start....last time I was there for about 20 - 30 mins trying and getting knackered before it fired and then was too knackered to really enjoy the ride.

Have you guys got any top tips for starting it after a drop? Apart from not dropping it or getting fitter

I'm planning to ride it to Morocco in October, so, need to try and sort it before I hit that heat and sand. Alternatively may have to try and add electric start too, but, that sounds costly....

My procedure when that happens- shut gas off, flip the kill switch to off, pull decomp, hold throttle wide open and kick through a few times (make sure kill switch is off when you kick with the throttle open!) flip kill switch back to on and do normal starting drill. It usually starts first kick for me after that, after it starts I turn the gas back on.
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:05 PM   #7586
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I bought a very nice complete 86 rocker box off of ebay. It looks like somebody wirebrushed the rocker faces and I cant tell for sure if the chrome plating has been compromised. How much is it to get the rockers done and who does it?
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Old 05-11-2013, 09:28 PM   #7587
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Hey guys, been out on the trails quite a bit recently and really enjoying the XL, the only downside has been the couple of times I've dropped it

It starts first kick normally, but, if it goes down it just doesn't want to start for a long time. I've tried the full procedure kicking with decomp etc, but, it just doesn't start....last time I was there for about 20 - 30 mins trying and getting knackered before it fired and then was too knackered to really enjoy the ride.

Have you guys got any top tips for starting it after a drop? Apart from not dropping it or getting fitter

I'm planning to ride it to Morocco in October, so, need to try and sort it before I hit that heat and sand. Alternatively may have to try and add electric start too, but, that sounds costly....
I have more experience with this then I would like. I just turn the gas off pull the decomp lever and kick leisurely until it starts. It will most times go fairly soon. Turn gas back on and ride away. If you kick for a long time before it starts turn the gas back on.
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Old 05-12-2013, 12:58 AM   #7588
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Cheers guys, hoping I don't drop it anytime soon, but, will give your suggestions a go next time :) may even just lay it down to see if it works for me
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Old 05-12-2013, 04:34 AM   #7589
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I bought a very nice complete 86 rocker box off of ebay. It looks like somebody wirebrushed the rocker faces and I cant tell for sure if the chrome plating has been compromised. How much is it to get the rockers done and who does it?

Mega Cycle Cams does this. It's almost $60.00 for each rocker arm.
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Old 05-12-2013, 06:36 AM   #7590
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Mega Cycle Cams does this. It's almost $60.00 for each rocker arm.
My plan is to get these rockers done and get my old cam hardwelded and reground as a mild stage one. Save everything for when I ever get around to doing a timing chain after another 10,000 miles.
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