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Old 07-26-2013, 09:03 PM   #8371
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Hondabond can also be bought at your local Honda (car) dealer. Accept no substitutes, unless it be Yamabond, which is the same thing.
I do not like permatex red. I shudder when a bike or car comes in with that stuff oozing from it's mating surfaces because it makes me wonder what else could be wrong in there, kinda like an arrow pointing to potential problem areas.
Lol that made me laugh Too late though I already put it on So i guess i will have to see if it works. As long as it seals i will be happy with it. I didn't gob it on there either so it's not all oozing out the sides

Question: Do i install the head gasket dry or do i use Hondabond? The head gaskets looked like they were installed dry when I disassembled the engine. If it needs Hondabond I'll get some.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:54 PM   #8372
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If it is a new headgasket from Honda, or actually any gasket from Honda it has all it needs on it already to seal. Exceptions to that rule are the base gasket where the manual states you should apply a dab of Hondabond where it straddles the center case joint, and of course wire grommets in cases like stator wires and pulse generator wires. I Also put a very light skin of Hondabond on the rocker cover gasket that I always reuse.

I have reused headgaskets before with no problems, but in those cases I do coat the gasket with the spray on copper coat gasket adhesive for good measure
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Old 07-27-2013, 04:39 AM   #8373
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It's not a Honda headgasket. It's aftermarket but atleast it's from Japan. So I should just spray some copper RTV on it then?
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:05 AM   #8374
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New head gaskets go on dry. Reuse head gaskets??? Why chance it.

http://www.ask.com/answers/45995461/...-a-head-gasket

BTW... What do you need the sealant for??

This is the STUFF!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Motorcr...bef7f5&vxp=mtr
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:47 AM   #8375
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Got the cylinder installed today. Nobody in the area had Hondabond but the mechanic at the dealership said to use Permatex High temp red RTV Silicone gasket if I don't want to wait for the Hondabond to come in. I cut the shit out of my finger on the damn piston rings. Just waiting for Monday my next day off, and the damn decompression shaft
seals to come in the mail.
Head gaskets ALWAYS go on dry. Silicone is NOT for use on paper or asbestos gaskets. It's for use INSTEAD of gaskets. Silicone sealant is slippery and will make gaskets squeeze out of place.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:05 PM   #8376
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Hondabond is silicone based.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:23 PM   #8377
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Hondabond is silicone based.
It's not the same thing as regular silicone. It can be used in place of a gasket , but it's also a gasket sealer. Gasket sealer is for gaskets , regular silicone is not.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:58 PM   #8378
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RTV silicone's are good for caulking windows. Handy if you need red or blue to match colors.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:02 PM   #8379
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RTV silicone's are good for caulking windows. Handy if you need red or blue to match colors.
There's black and silver too. Your house must be easy to find.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:33 PM   #8380
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I didn't gob the shit on there and I'm confident it will seal. Worse case I'll pull the engine again and change the gasket. Should be easier the second time around I bought the red permatex cuz it had a picture of a valve cover, temps were up to 650F intermittent and use to form gaskets or coat gaskets to ensure seal.

Gonna reassemble some more. Just reviewing how to do the timing in the book right now Hopefully my decompression shaft seals come in today.
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Old 07-28-2013, 07:08 AM   #8381
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So i was running my engine a bit yesterday to test some changes i made to the electric system, and i noticed some smoke comming from the exhaust headers. would this indicate that i should change the rings on the headers? i reused them when changing the exhaust, dont know if that is ok? also, seemed like the pipe was getting rather hot after 5 minutes of running, is that normal?
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:49 AM   #8382
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You need to change the rings. i don't think there should be smoke at all though. the pipe will get hot, it has hot gases passing through when running.
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:40 AM   #8383
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550 mile road trip

an sugestions on what to check on a 83 xl600r brfore a 550 mile road trip im checking the basics like brakes lights ect changing the oil filter lube the chain but anything else ? also my detent on shifter is bad will that pose a problem of not?
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Old 07-28-2013, 10:58 AM   #8384
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an sugestions on what to check on a 83 xl600r brfore a 550 mile road trip im checking the basics like brakes lights ect changing the oil filter lube the chain but anything else ? also my detent on shifter is bad will that pose a problem of not?
Detent bad?? That doesn't sound promising. What is it doing or not doing?

I would also check the valve adjustment before the trip.
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Old 07-28-2013, 11:42 AM   #8385
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Detent bad?? That doesn't sound promising. What is it doing or not doing?

I would also check the valve adjustment before the trip.
detent in shifter its a sob to get in to nutral got some slop in it also
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