I give up

Predator · 07-18-2007, 06:13 AM

I'm giving up on the cruisers and want to go with a BMW. I got into endurance riding and the cruiser just doesn't play well on the back for long distances. My friends tell me the positioning on the BMW will be better for this type riding. I found a 2000 R 1100 RT for a decent price but it will need a good after market seat i'm told. What brand and how much am I looking at investing, also what else would be tops on my list for endurance comfort. I haven't made my mind up yet, the bikes been overhaul at the dealer and they're asking around 8500.00. It seems like a fair price to get into the BMW riding world.

Pacer · 07-18-2007, 08:16 AM

Perfect bike for what you want to do!!!

start with the stock set up or what ever the PO had done to it and go from there. Maybe the stock seat will work for you.
does it have the factory lugage system?

workerant · 07-18-2007, 08:28 AM

Like Pacer said, try the stock seat. There's an ass for every seat, and you may not need to replace the stocker.

If you do, have a look at Sargent seats. We used to stock them for RTs when I worked at BMW of Atlanta. I have 58,000 miles on the Sargent seat on my long-distance bike.

SCQTT · 07-18-2007, 08:55 AM

The GSs make really good lond distance touring bikes too. Someone on here just bought a really low mileage 04 1150 Adventure for $9K at a Honda dealer. It even had the OE aluminum bags.

Andoulli
I purchased this 2004 Adventure in Feb. with 2.7K miles and factory bags for $9K from my local Honda dealer's used stock.

Predator · 07-18-2007, 11:08 AM

It has factory lower luggage and a back rest at the passenger seat. 42,000 miles for a 2000 sound ok?
Everybodys telling me about Sargent seats but I think trying these first is a good idea since the Sargent aren't cheap.

07-18-2007, 01:24 PM

I did the same thing...that is I rode cruisers..ahem...Harleys for 10 years then finally just "gave up" . I couldnt take the back pain any more. I always felt like I was sitting on my tailbone, and after a couple hours on the bike, I looked like an old man when I got off and try tried to walk. Now...I'm not a tailbone-ologist or anything, but I swear it was bruising everytime I rode that thing.

I have an 07 R1200GS now. It is without doubt the best bike I've ever had. Its quick, easy to handle, very maneuverable, just plain fun. I go places that my Harley would never go. It gets me into trouble sometimes....but it also gets me out! As long as there are no LEO's involved.

While some people get along quite fine with the stock seat, my complaint was that after about an hour, I had some hot spots. Well..it felt like my ass was on fire. I had to do something . I considered a sargent..but they were backordered about 2 months at the time for the R1200GS. Sargent is a universal design more less. Many people seem to be happy with them..while a few arent', but that is expected. I actually really like the looks of the Sargents, whcih is what originally attracted me. But if I couldnt get one off the shelf and was going to have to wait 2-3 months....I decided to go right to the KING of Saddles...the Russell Day-Long.

My lead time for the Russell was also about 2-3 months at the time.
Russell Day-Long is more customized to your size and weight. Price wise...it was a little more than a sargent. I paid somewhere around $700...don't quote me on that..but it was in that neighborhoood. That included leather inserts on the drivers seat and recovering the passenger seat to match. This seat solved my problem. It got rid of the hot spots, it is very comforteable, and I could easily ride all "Day-Long" . I dont even think about my seating anymore. And I think it is a very good looking seat. Excellent craftsmanship. Pictures dont do them any justice. You really have to see them for yourself....on a bike.

I've added a few more toys to my bike since then. However, the Russell Seat remains to be the best money spent so far.

07-18-2007, 06:13 AM	#1
Predator ^OP Adventurer Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Youngstown, Ohio Oddometer: 84	I give up I'm giving up on the cruisers and want to go with a BMW. I got into endurance riding and the cruiser just doesn't play well on the back for long distances. My friends tell me the positioning on the BMW will be better for this type riding. I found a 2000 R 1100 RT for a decent price but it will need a good after market seat i'm told. What brand and how much am I looking at investing, also what else would be tops on my list for endurance comfort. I haven't made my mind up yet, the bikes been overhaul at the dealer and they're asking around 8500.00. It seems like a fair price to get into the BMW riding world.

07-18-2007, 08:28 AM	#3
workerant Cognitive Dissident Joined: Oct 2005 Location: 10 Miles North of Deal's Gap Oddometer: 1,843	Like Pacer said, try the stock seat. There's an ass for every seat, and you may not need to replace the stocker. If you do, have a look at Sargent seats. We used to stock them for RTs when I worked at BMW of Atlanta. I have 58,000 miles on the Sargent seat on my long-distance bike. __________________ The truth will come with ten thousand miles in the saddle. -Corb Lund

07-18-2007, 08:55 AM	#4
SCQTT Zwei Kolben Joined: May 2005 Location: Mike's Sky Rancho Oddometer: 4,953	The GSs make really good lond distance touring bikes too. Someone on here just bought a really low mileage 04 1150 Adventure for $9K at a Honda dealer. It even had the OE aluminum bags. Andoulli I purchased this 2004 Adventure in Feb. with 2.7K miles and factory bags for $9K from my local Honda dealer's used stock. __________________ This is SPARTA!

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07-18-2007, 08:16 AM	#2
Pacer Adventurer of sorts Joined: May 2006 Location: Phila Oddometer: 40	Perfect bike for what you want to do!!! start with the stock set up or what ever the PO had done to it and go from there. Maybe the stock seat will work for you. does it have the factory lugage system?

07-18-2007, 11:08 AM	#5
Predator ^OP Adventurer Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Youngstown, Ohio Oddometer: 84	It has factory lower luggage and a back rest at the passenger seat. 42,000 miles for a 2000 sound ok? Everybodys telling me about Sargent seats but I think trying these first is a good idea since the Sargent aren't cheap.

07-18-2007, 01:24 PM	#6
Johnny Bravo Guest Oddometer: n/a	I did the same thing...that is I rode cruisers..ahem...Harleys for 10 years then finally just "gave up" . I couldnt take the back pain any more. I always felt like I was sitting on my tailbone, and after a couple hours on the bike, I looked like an old man when I got off and try tried to walk. Now...I'm not a tailbone-ologist or anything, but I swear it was bruising everytime I rode that thing. I have an 07 R1200GS now. It is without doubt the best bike I've ever had. Its quick, easy to handle, very maneuverable, just plain fun. I go places that my Harley would never go. It gets me into trouble sometimes....but it also gets me out! As long as there are no LEO's involved. While some people get along quite fine with the stock seat, my complaint was that after about an hour, I had some hot spots. Well..it felt like my ass was on fire. I had to do something . I considered a sargent..but they were backordered about 2 months at the time for the R1200GS. Sargent is a universal design more less. Many people seem to be happy with them..while a few arent', but that is expected. I actually really like the looks of the Sargents, whcih is what originally attracted me. But if I couldnt get one off the shelf and was going to have to wait 2-3 months....I decided to go right to the KING of Saddles...the Russell Day-Long. My lead time for the Russell was also about 2-3 months at the time. Russell Day-Long is more customized to your size and weight. Price wise...it was a little more than a sargent. I paid somewhere around $700...don't quote me on that..but it was in that neighborhoood. That included leather inserts on the drivers seat and recovering the passenger seat to match. This seat solved my problem. It got rid of the hot spots, it is very comforteable, and I could easily ride all "Day-Long" . I dont even think about my seating anymore. And I think it is a very good looking seat. Excellent craftsmanship. Pictures dont do them any justice. You really have to see them for yourself....on a bike. I've added a few more toys to my bike since then. However, the Russell Seat remains to be the best money spent so far.