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Old 09-18-2003, 10:36 AM   #16
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Said Jeffaugie:

Anything longer that 15 min merrits full gear.

I can have a wreck 20 seconds from my driveway at the end of my street.

I've made the choice to wear jeans. It's a gamble I'm willing to take. Armored riding pants are too bulky and hot to donn for every ride in Texas, I've got nowhere to keep them once I get where I'm going for 75% of my trips, and as far as I'm concerned, JEANS count as protective gear... maybe less than armored stuff, but they are certainly better than nylon jogging pants or a pair of shorts.

When I said the other stuff was not an option, I meant "not optional." I always wear the rest of the gear.
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Old 09-18-2003, 11:56 AM   #17
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I wear jeans 90% of the time.

I have paid the price in the past. Most likely I'll pay it again in the future. Yet, I still ride with jeans.

When I lose the weight (crosses fingers that the stuff in progress works) and/or find a manufacturer that can make riding pants in my size that are actually wearable (my Bates jacket rules. My Bates pants suck hard) then I'll re-evaluate this decision. If I had the ability to go buy an Aerostitch in my size to ride to work in I'd do so in a hearbeat, even though it'd make me look like a cordura twinkie.

The price? Two scarred lower legs, each one with a 4"x8" patch of skin (yes, I have big legs) that are all kinds of funky reddish tones. The scars make doctors think I'm diabetic. This was casued by being ejected sideways from a Honda Helix as it got wedged in a roadside ditch, and the legs sliding front-side against the exposed edge of raggedy asphalt. I could see bone, and it wasn't pretty. Had to pick up myself and my scooter and drive to the hospital, too. Wheee.

So yeah, like all of motorcycling, it's an Accepted Risk. I guess I just accept a bit more than an ATGATT'er. Could I *find the gear* in my size, my position would change. I love proper gear; it's a geek-out thing to me.
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Old 09-18-2003, 12:25 PM   #18
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THIS

is how I used to ride in the summer here. Uhhh! Scares me to think about it anymore...
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Old 09-18-2003, 01:30 PM   #19
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I hear that statistically, most accidents happen around your home.
Statiscally, elevators stop on the ground floor as often as all other floors combined.....but that doesn't mean a one story building needs an elevator

For most riders, every 2nd trip starts at your house, and the alternate ones end there, regardless of length....so statistically there is a lot of opportunity for accidents to happen near home.
It would be wrong to assume that short trips are more dangerous from this statistic alone.

There MIGHT be something to it though. I certainly prepare more when I will be all day on the bike vs. a quick dash to the auto-parts store.
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Old 09-18-2003, 01:50 PM   #20
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"I wear all the protective gear because & because im a retentive prat & want everone to be just like me"

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Old 09-18-2003, 02:39 PM   #21
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If I had the ability to go buy an Aerostitch in my size to ride to work in I'd do so in a hearbeat, even though it'd make me look like a cordura twinkie.

Not that I have had to use it, but I believe Aerostitch will make custom suits to measure, for not a whole lot more than rack items.

Have you tried contacting them to see what they can do for you?

Good luck on the weight loss- can be a tough battle.
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Old 09-18-2003, 03:07 PM   #22
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Have you tried contacting them to see what they can do for you?
Been there. Done that.

Called them, gave them the starts of my measurements, got told an unpleasant combo of 'no way in hell' and 'why is someone that damn fat riding'?

Very last response I would have expected from such a cool company as 'stitch.

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and hoping it was some squidly intern, so I've not stopped shopping with them yet. But still, dyammn...
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Old 09-18-2003, 03:21 PM   #23
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Called them, gave them the starts of my measurements, got told an unpleasant combo of 'no way in hell' and 'why is someone that damn fat riding'?

Very last response I would have expected from such a cool company as 'stitch.

I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and hoping it was some squidly intern, so I've not stopped shopping with them yet. But still, dyammn...
This has been going on for quite awhile now, dropping (I think) the 3XL Darien jacket they used to make, as well any Darien pant sizes over 44. Which basically means that if you are over 300lbs, forget it.

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Old 09-18-2003, 03:23 PM   #24
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That author is known, BTW.

Jason Gundlach posted it on a newsgroup may 31, 2001, and I got his permission to repost it on my web site.

http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle...earChoice.html
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Old 09-18-2003, 05:24 PM   #25
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ATGATT for me.

I had a low-side at about 70 mph on my supermoto (on the track) and jumped back up without a scratch or bruise. I slid for probably 30 feet before I hit the rumble strip on the outside of the turn, which started me tumbling, and continued tumbling for another 20 feet.

I've never been so happy to have spent the day sweating my ass off in a leather suit. If its too hot for the proper gear, it may be too hot to ride.

BTW, I highly recommend Alpinestars SMX 2 suit, GP plus gloves and SMX 2 boots.....fortunately my Arai never touched the pavement.
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Old 09-18-2003, 05:31 PM   #26
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Thumb Too hot?

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If its too hot for the proper gear, it may be too hot to ride.

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Old 09-18-2003, 06:05 PM   #27
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I had a low-side at about 70 mph on my supermoto (on the track)
Comparing apples to oranges here. Note the "on the track" part.


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If its too hot for the proper gear, it may be too hot to ride.
Feel free not to.
I'll continue with my routine.
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Old 09-18-2003, 06:45 PM   #28
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ATGATT on and off the track.

I was just relating a personal experience of how wearing the gear saved my hide.:):
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Old 09-18-2003, 07:41 PM   #29
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Comparing apples to oranges here. Note the "on the track" part.

Last time I looked, race tracks and highways had the same surface....

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Old 09-18-2003, 07:42 PM   #30
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Jeans 100% of the time and insulated Carhartts over that when cold.

If I was agressive sportbiking, dirt riding or going to the track, I'd be geared to hell.
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