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Old 02-18-2013, 01:47 AM   #2746
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That looks cool, I like the NXR750 version as well.
I don't smoke but that paint job makes me want too!
How feckin cool looking is that!
Seen sportsbikes but not trailies painted like that.

Fair play bounder, your an encyclopedia on Dommies!
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:54 AM   #2747
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Fair play bounder, your an encyclopedia on Dommies!
Not really but when you've had one as long as I have you get to know them quite well.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:12 AM   #2748
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Hello inmates

So, as an update to my earlier post here, I bought the 1993 Dominator and have ridden about 1000km. In that time, I have discovered:

- what a fun, capable and slightly topheavy beast the NX650 is.
- a chain that's smeared with greasy sludge is not a lubricated chain, and it might snap
- a chain snapping doesn't always result in a rear wheel skid
- a chain snapping might result in me breaking down in a neighbourhood renowned for its auto theft and chopshopping
- if the chain snaps I might have to push it 3km through torrential rain to leave it overnight in a shopping mall multistorey car park where there is only probably a >50% chance of it being there when I show up the next day to collect it
- that the wheelbase of the NX650 is about this much | | wider than the tail lift of the truck that I will use to collect it on my own

So all in all a bit of an initiation. As I now undo the results of my neglect, I have two questions which I hope that someone can help me with:

1) is it correct that there are no grease nipples on an NX650? I got the grease gun out the other night and couldn't find anything to connect it to!

2) I have a question about the front sprocket. Is it supposed to have lateral movement? As it is now, the front sprocket moves laterally (left-right) a fair bit. This means that the chain, the rear sprocket and the front sprocket won't all be in line. My mechanically-inclined friend is appalled. Is he correct to be worried?

Here is what the front sprocket looks like with the plastic cover on:



With the plastic cover removed - the kidney bean-shaped locking plate (don't know technical name) is now visible. (Obviously the chain ought to be in there, but isn't). The locking plate is held flush to the front sprocket by two 5mm hex bolts (which I just removed). The teeth of the locking plate and the sprocket are offset in relation to the splines of the countershaft, so that when the locking plate is bolted to the front sprocket, neither of them can slide off the countershaft:



The two 5mm bolts have been removed, and the front sprocket is just sitting loose on the splined countershaft:



The countershaft itself and the seal behind it - they both look to be in good condition, right?:





I searched this thread and I also noticed this question and this answer on a similar/same topic. Unfortunately, the photos which illustrated the answer are now gone, and I can't work out if it's the same question and the right answer for me!
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:39 AM   #2749
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@Rabbitears
There looks to be quite a lot of wear on the countershaft, the splines look worn.
This is common on higher mileage Honda's like the Transalp and Africa twin.
One fix that is talked about a lot is using a gap filling locking compound. Loctite 638 or similar.
This is the original Italian page you can see what to do or run it through a translation program.
http://tecnica.transalp.it/faidate.php?id=155
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Old 02-18-2013, 05:56 AM   #2750
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We have both mentioned a Rothmans style paint job. I found this version on a NX650.



This is different than I had envisioned, but it is nicely done!
Link to the site: http://www.scodellamelo.it/foto/garage/dom/10/10.php

That looks totally awesome! I think the light blue Rothman's color might actually look better on the NX than the other purpleish color they sometimes use.
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:49 AM   #2751
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Mitas Tyres

Just pulled the trigger on a pair of Mitas E07, these tyres are really reasonably priced.
98 delivered for a pair! They will be replacing a pair of Avon Distanzia AM44 that have been on for too long (10yrs )
Anyone else running Mitas here?
I know people say that tyres shouldn't be cheap but there is lots of people running Mitas in Australia that seem happy.
To get a set of tyres for the price of one big brand name rear seems almost too good to be true.
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Old 02-18-2013, 07:27 AM   #2752
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Rabbitears,

Your splines do look like they have some but not terrible wear. This can be due to the PO installing an aftermarket countershaft sprocket which are narrower and harder than the OE sprocket. A simple fix is to buy a sprocket for a XR650r which is wider and will cover all of the spline area and wears much better. Moose is a good brand if you can source it. The lateral movement is normal. The retainer as it's called is held in place by two 6mm bolts. How does the retainer look? If you install the XRR sprocket the flat side faces out. This is a comon issue over here on the XR650l as it dosen't have a cush rear hub.

Zert fittings. In the early to mid 90's Honda quit installing the zert fittinga as a labor/cost saving issue. Not sure is an earlier Domi will have the zerts or not if you can find used parts to swap.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:42 PM   #2753
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[QUOTE=mcma111;20751848]Rabbitears,

A simple fix is to buy a sprocket for a XR650r which is wider and will cover all of the spline area and wears much better.

I didn't know an XR650R sprocket would fit. Good to know for the future!

I also found a Craig's list ad for parts for a few bikes, one of them being an NX. Here's the link for anyone interested:



http://newjersey.craigslist.org/mcy/3623596693.html
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Old 02-18-2013, 06:02 PM   #2754
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Thank you all for your advice so far.

There is no significant axial or radial movement between the sprocket and the splined countershaft, so I think I am okay there. It's the lateral movement that is a bit of a concern: obviously it wouldn't matter if there is a little movement, but I am wondering if the play is excessive. I should have measured it when I had everything stripped down. I will take another look this evening and will hopefully understand more. I notice that there are may other threads on the internet about lateral play on front sprockets.

One good thing so far as that no-one has identified any missing parts!

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The retainer as it's called is held in place by two 6mm bolts. How does the retainer look?
The retainer (thanks for the name!) and the sprocket both look okay to me:




Thanks again everyone!
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:36 AM   #2755
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Just for the record, the countershaft changed between the 88 and 89-on model years, the later one has a 13 splines and the early one has 6.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:31 AM   #2756
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Rabbit,

Get rid of that JT sprocket. One it has wear and two it will damage your countershaft.
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Old 02-19-2013, 12:51 PM   #2757
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When I replaced my countershaft sprocket I went with a JT sprockt. Should I change this to a sprocket from an XR650R? I have a big trip coming up, and would like to know before I put a lot of miles on it.
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Old 02-19-2013, 01:21 PM   #2758
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All you have to do is go over to the XR650l thread and everyone is using the XRR sprocket. The only ones not doing so are either new (haven't bought it) or don't know yet.
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Old 02-19-2013, 04:19 PM   #2759
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Just pulled the trigger on a pair of Mitas E07, these tyres are really reasonably priced.
98 delivered for a pair! They will be replacing a pair of Avon Distanzia AM44 that have been on for too long (10yrs )
Anyone else running Mitas here?
I know people say that tyres shouldn't be cheap but there is lots of people running Mitas in Australia that seem happy.
To get a set of tyres for the price of one big brand name rear seems almost too good to be true.
Where dya get them?
Some price!
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:36 AM   #2760
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Where dya get them?
Some price!
Oponeo.ie, but I am having problems paying for them.
Their bank account number is huge, and AIB only need 8 digits.
Got it sorted, needed a little gizmo from the bankers

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