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Old 08-06-2007, 04:15 PM   #1
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tire balancing?

OK, so I'm signed up for the PNWGS Rally in Menlo WA (disclaimer, I'm a board member, but you should go too) this coming weekend, and I'm taking a advanced off-road clinic from acclaimed instructor Jimmy Lewis (more shameless pluggage).

So I changed my tires, and being tapped out after buying my beeyootiful R1200GS, I changed out my Deathwings for a pair of TKC 80's...all by myself! [except for when I had to take the front to a tire place across the street for some hi-pressure air...but that was free, therefore it didn't happen...those are the BMW rules).

'cept I didn't balance them. I don't have a balancer, and after all the wrasslin' with the beads and the tire irons and the lube and the yadda yadda, I just plain wasn't interested in any more work. it was 2am and i was urgently needed elsewhere.

But now, in the light of day and several hundred miles later, I'm thinking balancing might be a good idea.

What should I look for to see if I'm in need of balancing? I ride on the road to work 3 days a week (90mi days), as well as offroad on the weekends. on road I keep it under 80, off road around 20-40 tops.

How do i keep rolling happily along?
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:59 PM   #2
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What should I look for to see if I'm in need of balancing? I ride on the road to work 3 days a week (90mi days), as well as offroad on the weekends. on road I keep it under 80, off road around 20-40 tops.

How do i keep rolling happily along?
Take a gander at this link... it might just be of help: http://www.xs11.com/faq/tirefaq.shtml

Hope this helps,
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:01 PM   #3
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For years and years motorcycle tires weren’t balanced. If you are not feeling any unusual vibrations I would not worry about it.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:03 PM   #4
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Nice artical.. i like it and on that note has anyone used one of these to ballance wheels?

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=39741
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Old 08-07-2007, 04:27 AM   #5
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I stopped at Woodys to have my tires changed out on a cross country trip last year and they found that my rear rim was bent..and had been for over 20,000 miles..I remember what did it. I was going to have it changed or fixed but we were both out of time so I stuck on a new tire and hit the road. It is now 18,000 miles later and the rear is still bent and the bike feels great and the tire doesn't seem to wear too fast so maybe balancing is not the biggest issue if the bike seems good.

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Old 08-07-2007, 05:30 AM   #6
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Thumb Tire changing and balancing

I decided about a year ago to start changing my own tires. the savings are obvious at $75-100 per tire ( if you order your tires off the internet). Anyway, I proceeded to educate myself by reading all the forum writeups. I ended up purchasing the Harbor frieght setup with moto adapter ( $100). I found i didn't like the change bar that came with it ( didn't want to scratch my rims) so Marc Parnes recommended the "Mojo Lever" ($80). I also order the Marc Parnes Balancer ( around $ 200 once I bought the adapters I need for my new "07 GSA). I also bought some "Ruglide" lubricant from NAPA parts ($20 gal) and a couple "tire spoons" ( $13) from MotoPro. And finally some wheel weights and stems ( $20). So I end up with a $450 investment.
Over this past year I have had to replace 2 tires due to nails and one because of wear ( 3 tires= $300 savings). I have changed 4 tires out for my buddies and they each threw $20 in the "Tire Fund Kitty" ( $80). In another 6 months my entire investment will be reclaimed! It's really easy to change and balance your tires! Try it. You'll save loads of money! Ron Ray

By the way, at low speeds you won't notice it very much if your tire isn't balanced correctly but if you get up to high speeds it can bounce and wabble just like a car does. If you feel excessive vibration....slow down. If it persists. Have the tires balanced.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:01 AM   #7
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Cool2 Ceramic balance beads

Look at the ceramic tire beads they offer online. The theory behind them seems logical. I also like the mention that they do not require the old lead weights on the outside.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:54 AM   #8
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I don't want to put anything inside my tire that isn't air. YMMV.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:58 AM   #9
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The beads have been debunked my many reputable sources which does not include Motorcycle Consumer News (who also debunked them).\

I use the Marc Parnes setup for balancing my tires on my GS.
http://www.marcparnes.com/BMW_Motorc...l_Balancer.htm
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:15 AM   #10
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If you lined up the heavy spots on the tire when mounting you should be ok. I've had new bikes from BMW come without any weights on the wheels (and no - they were'nt perfectly balanced). If it really bothers you take them off and take them to the MC accesory store off 38th Street (Cycle-something) across from Borders and Costco and ask them to balance them for you - they're cheaper than the dealer.
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:30 PM   #11
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I've changed probably 50 tires. Never balanced one. Just ride brother, ride like the wind.
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Old 08-07-2007, 06:46 PM   #12
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Thx for the info guys/gals. I was wondering about the same thing recently.
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:34 PM   #13
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One more option to consider would be to add about 1 oz. of weight opposite the valve stem and call it close enough. That seems to be about what mine take when I balance them. I might have heavier than normal valve stems because I use metal 45 degree ones to make it easier to check the pressure. With regular rubber stems perhaps 1/2 oz. would be about right.

The Anakee tires I have been getting have not had any marking indicating the light spot, so I just put them on at random.
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Old 08-08-2007, 05:02 AM   #14
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Question Tire balancing

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I've changed probably 50 tires. Never balanced one. Just ride brother, ride like the wind.
Jim, just curious. I know that correct tire balancing improves tire wear. What kind of mileage do you usually get? I've gotten 18-20,000 miles on a front tire and 13-15,000 miles on a rear? That's what I used to get when I ran ME 880s on my LT. Ron Ray
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Old 08-08-2007, 08:12 AM   #15
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Hi,

Consider this;

http://www.ride-on.com/prod_mot.asp

It's a non gooey flat sealant system and dynamic tire balancer.

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