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09-17-2007, 01:21 AM
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VOID
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Oakland ca
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BMW F650GS Dakar or suzuki v strom 650
trying to find the right bike for my trip to alaska. I know there will be a lot of slab but would like to be able do a little off road.. and future plains may take me to baja ca. any thoughts
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09-17-2007, 02:15 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Nov 2005
Location: Gold Coast
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I had the F650, not the Dakar - the Dakar was better off road.
I'd take a DL 650. It'll handle good dirt roads with less rider effort than the BMW's and it has reasonable wind protection. For the road sections it's way ahead. The wind on the F used to beat me to death, not a problem on the DL. 300km's was a long day on the F, 1000km and I'm still going on the DL. The positives for the BMW shouldn't come into play on that trip - better ground clearance - you can take road bikes on that trip. - 21" front wheel, also a non event unless you have large objects to get over. "A little off road" pretty much is what the DL is good at, it's not a real dirt bike, but if it looks like a road you could get one of the pretend 4WD's down it'll handle it easilly. That said, either will probably do the trip, so if you really want the BMW go for it. If you weren't doing it for the fun of the ride you'd just fly there right ?. Pete |
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09-17-2007, 07:14 AM
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Beastly Adventurer
Joined: Mar 2003
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
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The regular GS650 is a great road bike....I think the larger front wheel on the Dakar model (21 vs 19) handicaps it a bit for sporty cornering on the road.
This topic has probably been hashed over a few dozen times. Try a search for past opinions too. |
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09-17-2007, 12:49 PM
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Out of the office.
Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Where the Ghetto meets the sea.
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just take a gander at mica peak and look to see which bike has had more trouble the BigMoneyWaster or the DumbLooking650.
Really it comes down to which bike will make you the happiest Not some internet forum... I ride the DL, and I wouldn't even think of the BMW. I have three airhead's in the garage.
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09-17-2007, 03:02 PM
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Stuck in Pindadesh
Joined: Jun 2006
Location: SoCal
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Test-ride both bikes and pick the one that you like the most. There is no wrong answer.
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09-17-2007, 03:15 PM
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Beastly Adventurer
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Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
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Hmmm..another "My bike is better than your bike" reply. How original. |
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09-17-2007, 04:51 PM
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VOID
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Oakland ca
Oddometer: 6
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thanks for your help. it's hard to get a test ride on a DL around here. Bmw will have a test fleet.. but suzuki's not having it..... my old bike is a sportster so the new one witch ever will be better thanks...
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09-20-2007, 01:43 PM
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n00b
Joined: Apr 2007
Location: CANADA
Oddometer: 5
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Dakar Vs XR650L Vs V-Strom
Howdy!!
I have an xr650l which is being converted to supermotard, and a dl-650 that I have converted to a more serious ADV bike...I was considering many others, but I love the 650 twin engine; in my opinion is the best compromise for weight/power/perfomance (ie vibration, maintenence etc). The twin engine is vastly superior for on road riding, but unfortunately the dl-650 is a bit on the heavy side. I am taking this bike to alaska next year, and it will do fine. The Dakars in Canada are like 13k new, versus under 9k new for a strom. I have never ridden a Dakar, but I would like to know how smooth running it is over long distances/higher speeds. I know that my xr drives the blood out of my hands from vibration after long days of riding. It can be done, but might be something to consider.
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09-25-2007, 07:32 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Aug 2007
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I think the Versys is a better design point than the Wee if you want a more road-oriented twin. Not only doesn't it seem to be the same size as a street bike, a parallel twin is a natural evolution from a single thumper. And that front cylinder and other engine components on the Wee hanging out down front is the last thing I want when going off road.
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09-25-2007, 07:36 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
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Oh, and check out this thrad for some real fun on this topic:
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263141
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09-25-2007, 07:47 PM
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www.rmariders.org
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+1 !!!! I did just that. I test rode both bikes. I really liked both bikes. But, for me....My riding is like this: 70% Pavement 15% Maintained, Dirt Forest Roads 5% Single Track or Pasture Roads For me....the DL650 was the better choice and all it took was one run up Hwy 24 to Woodland Park, CO on the Wee and I was sold. Oh my God it loves the twisties!!!!! It is also....not afraid of the dirt. These two pics are from the recent, 3-day ride that the wife and I did (2-Up) with the Massive Givi 45 x 3. The Wee-Strom performed very impressively. Never a lack of power!!!! ![]()
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09-25-2007, 08:29 PM
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Gnarly Adventurer
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Hmmmm....you call that dirt?
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09-26-2007, 12:19 AM
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I am horrible at taking care of a bike.
I bought mine used last year with 2475 miles on her & I just changed the spark plugs and air filter @ 35,000 and she never missed a beat. I have ridden very rough gravel roads and even single tracked her. She may not be beautiful, but she seems to be trouble free. Also, even loaded she is great at passing trucks on the Mt. Passes. I have often considered the F650, but am glad i didn't buy one. Just look through some of the many threads like show us your v-strom and see how others are setting their bikes up. All those miles and still using the stock seat. I use the Tourances and am getting over 14k on the rear 16 on the front. |
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09-26-2007, 06:41 AM
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one man wolfpack
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09-26-2007, 06:48 AM
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Studly Adventurer
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: San Jose, CA
Oddometer: 940
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Forget the "or"...
I have struggled with the same question, V-Strom or Dakar or KLR...
and finally found the perfect solution. Replace the "or" with "and" ![]() ![]() -- Mikko |
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