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Old 04-10-2013, 02:22 AM   #1516
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Hi,

Here is a rather specific problem for I would like you guys to suggest out of the box ideas...

You are alone (likely for hours), no buddy with you, nor vehicle passing by to help or serve as an anchor, and you are not so desperate yet as to hit your spot tracker 'help' button...

Your bike is in a ditch on the side of the road, steep enough that you can't ride it up.

There is no road sign pole, no guard rail pillar, no trees near the road i.e. nothing to tie a rope and pulley system to drag your bike (although you may have carried such equipment).

How do you get it back up to the road?

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PS: Don't think this is a rare setup; road sides are usually clear of trees and enclosed between muddy trenches, as you well know. So, I'm thinking about some anchor (or many anchors to spread the force) to nail in the ground, but I can't imagine carrying so much weight, hammer and all...
This got me thinking. First, I hope I'm on the Ural. No hill too steep, and if it is, I've got one of these in the trunk.



I've used it before even by myself. I put myself in a pretty stupid situation with a bald tire. I could have swapped to the spare, but it was a good opportunity to play. I connected it to the rear sidecar mount with the cable running forward. After throttling the bike forward as far as it would go, I would reach down and crank the heck out of it so I wouldn't slide back. Rinse and repeat until you're out of the mess.

Now, assuming I had this available, how would I do it on a two wheeler?

I would attach it to the rear of the frame, and route the cable through the front forks. This would serve to keep the bike on line. Then I would do the same procedure as above, and hopefully be able to duck walk it up the incline.

Then again, there is no way I'd likely have this thing on my two-wheelers.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:54 PM   #1517
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missed the question entirely...

There is {no road sign pole, no guard rail pillar, no trees } near the road side i.e. nothing to tie to pull up the road...
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:00 AM   #1518
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Take what you need, leave the bike there and get some help. Dont worry about getting your bike upright and out of the ditch if you cannot do it alone. I am almost sure you will injure yourself trying to retrieve the bike out of the ditch using fancy knots, or using your back as a fulcrum to inch it out. i know the question was hypothetical, but do not over think it. You already survived the crash into the ditch, do not hurt yourself trying to get it out with out help. Have enough water on hand to wait it out or walk out. Usually some one will drive by your location at some time.
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:12 AM   #1519
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Take what you need, leave the bike there and get some help. Dont worry about getting your bike upright and out of the ditch if you cannot do it alone. I am almost sure you will injure yourself trying to retrieve the bike out of the ditch using fancy knots, or using your back as a fulcrum to inch it out. i know the question was hypothetical, but do not over think it. You already survived the crash into the ditch, do not hurt yourself trying to get it out with out help. Have enough water on hand to wait it out or walk out. Usually some one will drive by your location at some time.
And when they drive by they'll have a truck and a come-along. You won't be there and they'll have a nice bike to part out on eBay.
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:56 AM   #1520
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missed the question entirely...

There is {no road sign pole, no guard rail pillar, no trees } near the road side i.e. nothing to tie to pull up the road...
No, didn't miss it, we just already covered it. Unless I'm on a beach of powdered sand, I'll have something to tie off on. Tie off on a rock and bury it. Tent stakes work too, assuming you're camping. Hell, I've used a buried rock to free a Humvee before, it is quite effective.

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Old 04-11-2013, 03:41 AM   #1521
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No, didn't miss it, we just already covered it.
Maybe but I already mentionned that I would already have the rope and pulley stuff; far more compact, versatile and light than a manual winch designed to pull 4 tons...

(and "fancy" knots? you should really learn knots, that's smarter spent time than facebook if you ask me: http://www.animatedknots.com/indexclimbing.php )

Thanks anyway, other members may like the idea.
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Old 04-11-2013, 04:34 AM   #1522
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(and "fancy" knots? you should really learn knots, that's smarter spent time than facebook if you ask me: http://www.animatedknots.com/indexclimbing.php )

Thanks anyway, other members may like the idea.
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Old 04-11-2013, 06:50 AM   #1523
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Old 04-12-2013, 04:34 PM   #1524
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For the size-worried enthusiasts.... for about $9.99
(less the wrenches of course)





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13 and 19mm.... why not 18 and 12 or 14.... why the F?
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:02 PM   #1526
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13 and 19mm.... why not 18 and 12 or 14.... why the F?
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Old 04-12-2013, 05:37 PM   #1527
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13 and 19mm.... why not 18 and 12 or 14.... why the F?
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Old 04-12-2013, 07:18 PM   #1528
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13 and 19mm.... why not 18 and 12 or 14.... why the F?
Thats the one reason I never liked those. If the upper one was 17 and the 3\8th was more common I'd use it. The 1\4" drive is 10mm, I have that one, it came in some kobalt kit, it's permanently on the one combination 10mm wrench in my kit, I only use it when needing to hold down one nut while tightening the other side with a ratchet. I almost never need it, but when I do, nothing else (not even a wrench) will do.

Also, I never need a 3\8th drive socket driver, except for a 17mm socket to do an oil change, and for that, I use a step up. I can't use a 17mm wrench on the connie (or some other bikes) for an oil change.
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Old 04-15-2013, 04:43 PM   #1529
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about anchoring for zdrag or winch:

http://www.tpub.com/steelworker2/70.htm

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Old 04-15-2013, 04:48 PM   #1530
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about anchoring for zdrag or winch:

http://www.tpub.com/steelworker2/70.htm

cool link - I've never seen picket anchors before - the multi-system combination concept is very clever thanks dddd
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