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Old 09-19-2007, 01:12 PM   #16
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I think if I had the good sense to have left my knee and shin armor in my pants, that would have covered me for the knee scrape.

More protection in the gloves is the thing I will be trying to upgrade. Since it wasn't a seam failure, I'm thinking some of that po-boy racer action across the top of my knuckles is the way to go.

In terms of boots, I'm guessing I will either stay with the racing style ankle protection (the Oxtar TCS worked OK) or maybe go with something in a sport touring boot like the Aerostich Combat Lites.

And maybe louder pipes... I heard somewhere that they save lives.



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Old 09-19-2007, 04:36 PM   #17
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Also glad to hear that you are okay and always appreciate people's reviews of gear that has truly been "tested".

BTW, you have a great writing style.

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Old 09-19-2007, 06:50 PM   #18
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Thanks for posting that, I went through that same area yesterday.

I am gonna have a lady friend of mine that wants to buy a bike read this, maybe ATGATT will sink in without pain on her part.

Glad you are OK.
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Old 09-20-2007, 10:31 PM   #19
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....And maybe louder pipes... I heard somewhere that they save lives.



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You should try to convince Gary of that! (We havn't met, but I'm a new RC this year from Casper) Say, did you save the helmet for a visual on the importance of full face?

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Old 09-20-2007, 11:14 PM   #20
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Maybe the moral to this story is that deer hide is not a good protector in crashes.
It would make more sense to believe that safety gear will not always save you from all injury, but you can damned sure be confident that it will save you from a lot more pain than you would endure had you not been wearing it.

Also, some things just fail - and animal skin is a very uncontrolled material when it comes to consistent mechanical properties!
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:20 AM   #21
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It would make more sense to believe that safety gear will not always save you from all injury, but you can damned sure be confident that it will save you from a lot more pain than you would endure had you not been wearing it.

Also, some things just fail - and animal skin is a very uncontrolled material when it comes to consistent mechanical properties!
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I avoid night riding because of these horned rats. They are all over Ohio. I think we have more deer than we have motorcyclists at this point. A gang of five deer is always hanging out at the entrance to my health club and they drive me nuts.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:19 AM   #22
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The humorous observation is that I would have thought wearing the deer leather should have been a clear warning to local wildlife that I would not hesitate to turn one of them into a canoe - with a little left over to make a nice wallet.

I agree with the theory that it is probably not reasonable to expect that one's gear can completely prevent injuries in the type of crash I had - it did expose an area where I may be be able to improve on my coverage... But there is always that balance to be struck between protection and comfort. Even though I needed the stitches, I think the gloves held up pretty well overall.

And yes, George... I'm keeping the helmet and gloves for their instructional properties...

Also, thanks all for the congratulations and commiserations...

Ride safe,

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Old 09-21-2007, 11:57 AM   #23
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The humorous observation is that I would have thought wearing the deer leather should have been a clear warning to local wildlife that I would not hesitate to turn one of them into a canoe - with a little left over to make a nice wallet.....
I never thought of it that way, but it makes sense. Too bad it didn't work out for you though.

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Old 09-21-2007, 12:43 PM   #24
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Deer Whistles...

Hello, and thanks for the gear report....

I hit a deer with my car once, and can only imagine what it must be like if I was on a bike. It took out the whole Driver side front of my Saab 95. $10,000 in damage.

But that's not what I wanted to talk about...

The guy that I had bought my bike from in CT, had put a pair of 'deer whistles' on the front fender of the bike.

We have a lot of deer here, and when I ride at night, I generally see them standing by the side of the road when I drive by with my truck, but they are always running away from me when I see them on my bike.
I ride a 89 TransAlp, so it is certainly not a load bike.....so I am thinking that these whistles work, and will def put them on my next bike....still drooling over a 1200GS!

these are similar to the ones I have on my fender..
http://www.sevendeals.com/p-3407-deer-whistle.aspx

At $5.95 for a pair.. ... Cheaper than better gloves ....

Again, thanks for the report, and the pictures.... I guess I will be wearing more protection for the next few weeks, then back to flip flops and shorts! I know it is bad, but that is how I grew up riding in South Aftrica.

Good luck with the recovery.
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Old 09-21-2007, 02:36 PM   #25
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Outstanding post and pix there. It definitely is a testament to ATGATT. I hope the injuries heal fast and the bike gets fixed soon.
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Old 09-21-2007, 06:12 PM   #26
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You are living a charmed life

Jim - I was one of the 4 LEOs from Colorado Springs that was riding behind you when you made firiends with that deer. I've seen my share of people that were DRT (Dead Right There) and when I first saw you, I figured you for DRT also. Turned out you were conscious and as alert as most people still doing the ride. Man, you are living a charmed life. Good karma there.

Once we got you on your way, I helped your partner right your bike and try to locate some paperwork. I also took a handful of amazing photos that I will try to get posted here.

Your accident hung over evryone's head for thr rest of the ride. Besides not knowing your condition, we spent the rest of the day and that night worrying about hitting one of those furry bastards.

Jim, all the best in the world to you. I hope to meet you someday under better circumstances.

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Old 09-22-2007, 10:12 AM   #27
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Maybe I did hit my head...

Hello Pete,

There were four of you from the Springs? Maybe I wasn't as alert as you gave me credit for... My only defense is that I was seeing things through the port hole view of the helmet.

I was thinking that other than at a track, there's probably not many people who have crashed under better circumstances in terms of who was nearby - not saying that I wouldn't rather have met you all at brunch in Steamboat, but I sincerely appreciate having had the benefit of meeting you when I did.

I am very grateful for all of the help, both in checking me over and rounding up my gear. If we can manage it sometime, I'd like to meet again without anyone feeling compelled to hold me down or ask me what year it is.

Sorry about starting the ride out wrong like that - it must have been a bit of a weight to wonder about the whole thing. It was nice to hear that practically everybody else made it to the end safe and sound.

Thanks again (and thanks for weighing in)!

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Old 07-06-2009, 11:31 PM   #28
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The guy that I had bought my bike from in CT, had put a pair of 'deer whistles' on the front fender of the bike.

We have a lot of deer here, and when I ride at night, I generally see them standing by the side of the road when I drive by with my truck, but they are always running away from me when I see them on my bike.
I ride a 89 TransAlp, so it is certainly not a load bike.....so I am thinking that these whistles work, and will def put them on my next bike....still drooling over a 1200GS!


At $5.95 for a pair.. ... Cheaper than better gloves ....

Holy Shyte Klopfi


You're a damned lucky fellow!! Thanks for the report.

Hubascuba, its odd, I used to ride a Transalp w/ deer whistles, now I ride a GS w/ deer whistles. I'd like to add a RT-P w/ deer whistles someday.
On my TransAmerica tour, my TransCanada tour, and on rides throughout BC and Ontario, I've also only ever seen deer's arses as they've fled my unholy presence..... or the deer whistles.
I understand that our cops have them on their patrol cars, which seems a pretty good endorsement.
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:13 AM   #29
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what an amazing story. i'm a little worried about those motoport pants. on the other hand, no textile is 100% and you did come off at speed. i guess they did just fine.


glad you're doing well, and hope your moto is replaced soon enough.
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Old 07-13-2009, 06:16 AM   #30
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"i'm a little worried about those motoport pants."

I wouldn't be... The abrasion that came through (and the pants weren't damaged in that spot - it was a through the fabric scrape) was an area that should have been covered if I hadn't been more concerned about armor comfort over my "do these boots make my butt look fast?" Oxtars. When I sent them in to be patched, I asked Wayne and Co. to expand the ankles to account for my mighty booted calves and the knee armor comfort conundrum was solved.

I don't know that the pictures really did justice to the violence of the tumble, but the whole process left me feeling pretty good about choosing Motoport. I remain confident in the kevlar gear and haven't regretted the choice.

The epilogue to all this is that I was riding again about about 3 weeks after channeling Nimrod (as soon as I could pull a glove on over my finger without squealing) and the bike was replaced a couple of months later. People tell me how lucky I am - but I mean seriously, the guys who scraped me up (great as they were) would never be confused for Swedish bikini models travelling the country with unclaimed game show prizes...

You'd think that I'd get some credit for being a really good crasher, but not so much.

I just wish that I had the presence of mind to ask the doctor as he stitched my middle finger up if I would ever be able to flip someone off again...

Ride safe!

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