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Old Yesterday, 07:38 AM   #1
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DR650 - Advice Required URGENTLY

Please bear with me, I'm new in here.

I've recently purchased a 2010 DR650.

I'm a life long motorcyclist, mechanic by trade, engineer by profession, but first time DR650 owner, with access to a fair range of workshop equipment for fabrication type stuff.

I've attempted to read as much as I can on the DR thread in here, but with a gazillion posts on 6,000+ pages, I gave up after about 6 hours.

My usage mix will be approximately -
Solo = Me at approx 95kg fully kitted, with about 20kg of camping gear in a top box and soft panniers
50% tar - 40% dirt roads / fire trails - 10% snotty stuff

Two up = Me @ 95kg + co-pilot @ 65kg fully kitted + approx 20kg of camping gear

I want to get this bike to where I want it ASAP, so can I please draw on the expertise of other DR owners to short track my learning curve, with answers to the following -

1/ SEAT
The options as I see it are as follows
a/ Get the stock seat re-sculptured = around the $300-350 mark
b/ A Sargent seat = Approx $550
c/ Saddleman Adventure http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/141320396...84.m1423.l2649
d/ Seat Concepts http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221483093...84.m1423.l2649
e/ Fit a DL seat - Buy from a wrecker, and make it fit.


2/ FUEL TANK
Think I've got this pretty well nailed ,,, Acerbis 25 litre, in clear


3/ LUGGAGE
Bike came with an Andy Strapz rack and Expedition panniers, to which I've added an R-Jays 39 litre top box.
I will modify the rack to shift it (and topbox) backwards approx 50mm to give more room when there's a pillion aboard.

Have also got a small Moto-Dry tank bag.


4/ WINDSCREEN
Have read all of the windscreen thread in here, and saw some pretty good options.
Read about this one - posted by holckster - dougholck
Old 11-09-2010, 07:15 AM
I'm thinking of ordering one of these Britannia Composites complete fairing units.
http://www.britanniacomposites.com/lynx.html
Larger fairing, adjustable windshield, double headlight lighting (will add HID low beam) and adds good dash location for Vapor/GPS. Looks good IMO.

, but unfortunately no pics as yet, and the web link takes you to a non-descript page. I'd like to know/see more on this one.


5/ INSTRUMENTATION

TrailTech ,,,,
ENDURANCE http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181440306...84.m1423.l2649

or

VAPOR http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171343303...84.m1423.l2649

or

VOYAGER http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171348399...84.m1423.l2649
with this to keep it in one piece ,,, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181430160...84.m1423.l2649

Any thoughts ,,,, pros and/or cons ?
I know the voyager is not a Garmin or Tom Tom, but is it good enough to get you out of trouble in the scrub ?
I definitely want something that gives better info than stock.


6/ HEADLIGHTS

I rode the bike from Sydney to Tamworth in the dark, and was pretty impressed by the headlight, even though it was not aimed to best advantage.
Unfortunately I'm accustomed to H.I.D's on every other vehicle I own (car & bike). What are inmate's thoughts on -
a/ Fitting the LED units that I've seen in posts in here ,,, such as http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181356164...84.m1423.l2649
b/ Fit a H4 hi/lo beam HID of 4200k ?
c/ Fit a Phillips +120 or +150 halogen bulb ?
d/ Fit a dual headlight / windscreen unit as mentioned in Windscreens above ?


7/ HEATED GRIPS
No brainer ,,, best in the world ,,,, VSM @ $55.00. Have got them on every other bike ,,,, the "Ducks guts"


8/ FOOTPEG LOWERING (Front & Rear)
Will make these myself.
Am thinking of lowering the front pegs about 40mm, and setting them backwards about 20mm.
Rear pegs ,,,, dunno. Kate reckons the DR is worse that the 1098.
But she's been spoilt by the ST3, which is almost the "Goldwing" of Sports/Tourers.
I'm hoping to get her pegs down about 75mm, and forward about 20mm.


9/ CENTRE STAND
For mine, this is a MUST.
What have inmates found to be the Good/Bad of centrestands ?


10/ SUSPENSION
Have already got this organised, with a well know suspension expert, with good experience with DR's.
But having said that, I'm still kicking around the idea of fitting -
a/ An OHLINS, with remote reservoir.
b/ A Penske. with fully adjustable everything ,,,, no C spanner required.
c/ Or this item ,,, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151343771...84.m1423.l2649
d/ Lowering the seat height approx 25-30mm

11/ Bike has already got a VSM Case Saver fitted.
Any thoughts on gearing ?
I'm happy with a lazy tar speed of 100-120KPH
But I'm happy to wring it's neck for more when playing silly buggers in the dirt.

How does 15 : 42 sound ?


12/ TOOLBOX
Fitting a second OEM toolbox tube on the other side of the frame.


I'm looking to get this project done and dusted as a matter of urgency, so I can start going on the rides that I bought it to do.

To that end, your earliest possible input and advice will be much appreciated.

Cheers
TD
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Old Yesterday, 08:26 AM   #2
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Have you been to the DR site?

http://drriders.com/

You might find more help there.
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Old Yesterday, 06:51 PM   #3
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Seat:

I have the lowered sargent seat. It's pretty hard.

Lights:

I use an Hi-Lo HID and it's ok. my friend runs one of those giant trail tech round lights and it puts out a TON more light. I would go that route if I were to start over again.

Instruments

I like my Vapor, but you will need to replace the battery in it every once in a while even if it is hard wired. When the battery goes dead, it will not keep your trip distance when you key the bike off.

My buddy has the voyager, and it is the biggest POS there is. It will only read tracks, nothing else. It can't route or anything, and most of the time it can't even pick up a GPS signal.


Center Stand

I have an SW Motech center stand and it works as advertised. I have a yamaha front fork, which is a little taller than stock and sometimes I will have to put the stand on top of something to get the rear wheel up. I haven't had any issues with it, it just works.
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Old Yesterday, 07:26 PM   #4
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wouldn't it be easier to ride the thing for a while first??

I've seen no reason to change the stock instrumentation.
The rest is gonna be preference. Ride the thing.



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Old Yesterday, 08:26 PM   #5
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Just go to the source and ship intl:
http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html
everyone will different opinions. buy mod in the budget range you can afford.
ride it first and see what you need.

read the big DR thread, the drriders.com & this
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=32
and then ask.
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Old Yesterday, 10:44 PM   #6
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Cool2 best seat ever

www.renazco.com/
They made an all day comfortable seat for my DR. Best seat I ever had on a bike.
Lots of choices for colors and vinyl or suede. Check them out. They just made another seat for me for my latest dirt bike. Worth it.
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Old Today, 12:42 AM   #7
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Seat - I've got a metzi. It's a good thing. Otherwise look at getting a seat concepts kit and doing it yourself. Or an airhawk, price out of the US is pretty reasonable.

Fuel tank - fair enough. 2-up consumption will suffer though so hopefully 25l is enough.

Luggage - Andy strapz is good quality stuff. If you want bigger consider steel pony gascoynes. I've got magadans and while the design is good, my initial impressions is the quality is not the best, definitely not in the same league as andys or steel pony.

Windscreen - yeah that thing looks good. If I was to start again on my builds I would buy buy those!

Instrumentation - vapour and separate gps is the way to go.

Headlights - get the HID option with the lynx fairing and kill 2 birds with one substantial sum of money.

Grips - yep agree. Consider getting a electronic controller if you've got the time.

Lowered pegs - yep great mod. Mine are about 35 lower and 20 back and I'm 180cm tall

Centre stand - SW Motech make a good one

Suspension - forks are probably more important start point than the shock. There is plenty written up on front end upgrades, gold valves + progressive springs and fork brace are about as good as they'll get. Ive just done a showa fork install from RMZ450. Best mod I've done I think. For the shock, the standard one is not too bad a start point with a revalve and stiffer spring. I went CD Mojave on ours as I was time constrained and wanted the bikes to be the same to help with maintenance. I'm happy with the shock.

Gearing - I've run 16-44 on road and 14-44 off road in the past. Good compromise.

Toolbox - the OEM one is too small but there are plenty of decently sized aftermarket options available.




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Originally Posted by Mach3 View Post
1/ SEAT
The options as I see it are as follows
a/ Get the stock seat re-sculptured = around the $300-350 mark
b/ A Sargent seat = Approx $550
c/ Saddleman Adventure http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/141320396...84.m1423.l2649
d/ Seat Concepts http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221483093...84.m1423.l2649
e/ Fit a DL seat - Buy from a wrecker, and make it fit.


2/ FUEL TANK
Think I've got this pretty well nailed ,,, Acerbis 25 litre, in clear


3/ LUGGAGE
Bike came with an Andy Strapz rack and Expedition panniers, to which I've added an R-Jays 39 litre top box.
I will modify the rack to shift it (and topbox) backwards approx 50mm to give more room when there's a pillion aboard.

Have also got a small Moto-Dry tank bag.


4/ WINDSCREEN
Have read all of the windscreen thread in here, and saw some pretty good options.
Read about this one - posted by holckster - dougholck
Old 11-09-2010, 07:15 AM
I'm thinking of ordering one of these Britannia Composites complete fairing units.
http://www.britanniacomposites.com/lynx.html
Larger fairing, adjustable windshield, double headlight lighting (will add HID low beam) and adds good dash location for Vapor/GPS. Looks good IMO.

, but unfortunately no pics as yet, and the web link takes you to a non-descript page. I'd like to know/see more on this one.


5/ INSTRUMENTATION

TrailTech ,,,,
ENDURANCE http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181440306...84.m1423.l2649

or

VAPOR http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171343303...84.m1423.l2649

or

VOYAGER http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171348399...84.m1423.l2649
with this to keep it in one piece ,,, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181430160...84.m1423.l2649

Any thoughts ,,,, pros and/or cons ?
I know the voyager is not a Garmin or Tom Tom, but is it good enough to get you out of trouble in the scrub ?
I definitely want something that gives better info than stock.


6/ HEADLIGHTS

I rode the bike from Sydney to Tamworth in the dark, and was pretty impressed by the headlight, even though it was not aimed to best advantage.
Unfortunately I'm accustomed to H.I.D's on every other vehicle I own (car & bike). What are inmate's thoughts on -
a/ Fitting the LED units that I've seen in posts in here ,,, such as http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181356164...84.m1423.l2649
b/ Fit a H4 hi/lo beam HID of 4200k ?
c/ Fit a Phillips +120 or +150 halogen bulb ?
d/ Fit a dual headlight / windscreen unit as mentioned in Windscreens above ?


7/ HEATED GRIPS
No brainer ,,, best in the world ,,,, VSM @ $55.00. Have got them on every other bike ,,,, the "Ducks guts"


8/ FOOTPEG LOWERING (Front & Rear)
Will make these myself.
Am thinking of lowering the front pegs about 40mm, and setting them backwards about 20mm.
Rear pegs ,,,, dunno. Kate reckons the DR is worse that the 1098.
But she's been spoilt by the ST3, which is almost the "Goldwing" of Sports/Tourers.
I'm hoping to get her pegs down about 75mm, and forward about 20mm.


9/ CENTRE STAND
For mine, this is a MUST.
What have inmates found to be the Good/Bad of centrestands ?


10/ SUSPENSION
Have already got this organised, with a well know suspension expert, with good experience with DR's.
But having said that, I'm still kicking around the idea of fitting -
a/ An OHLINS, with remote reservoir.
b/ A Penske. with fully adjustable everything ,,,, no C spanner required.
c/ Or this item ,,, http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151343771...84.m1423.l2649
d/ Lowering the seat height approx 25-30mm

11/ Bike has already got a VSM Case Saver fitted.
Any thoughts on gearing ?
I'm happy with a lazy tar speed of 100-120KPH
But I'm happy to wring it's neck for more when playing silly buggers in the dirt.

How does 15 : 42 sound ?


12/ TOOLBOX
Fitting a second OEM toolbox tube on the other side of the frame.


I'm looking to get this project done and dusted as a matter of urgency, so I can start going on the rides that I bought it to do.

To that end, your earliest possible input and advice will be much appreciated.

Cheers
TD
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I have 2 x 35W Cree LED spots and Oxford grips on my 2014 DR and that is too much for the alternator if run at the same time. I have a switch to turn on one spot only, which works OK if you are above 3500rpm, but I am also going to put in a cut switch for the high beam so that can be taken out of the circuit as well. The grips or the 2 lights work fine if they are the only thing running, but together the draw is simply too much, even with the grips on 25%.

I'm not sure there would be enough space behind the light for one of those LED H4 replacements; pretty tight in there. I run a 43 tooth rear and it is perfect for me, low enough for fire roads etc and high enough for relaxed 110kmh running.
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