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Old 12-14-2009, 09:40 PM   #46
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I rode home from the border, you need to get a special permit from ICBC
Thanks very much for answering so quickly Bill. I'll give ICBC a call tomorrow to get more information about the special permit.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:21 AM   #47
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BMW Recall Letter

Has anyone had any success importing a BMW from the US without having to pay the absurd $500 for the recall letter from BMW Canada i.e. for RIV purposes?

I am in the process of importing a bike from Washington and have a letter from one of the BMW dealers declaring there aren't any outstanding recall campaigns on the specific bike and providing a detailed history of the recall work done to date. Will that suffice?

Thanks for the help and advice received thus far...I'm almost there.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:24 PM   #48
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I am in the process of importing a bike from Washington and have a letter from one of the BMW dealers declaring there aren't any outstanding recall campaigns on the specific bike and providing a detailed history of the recall work done to date. Will that suffice?
When I brought my bike over the border, the letter had to come from the manufacturer or a licensed dealer. If your letter is from one of those two and is current then you're good to go.
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Old 12-20-2009, 01:57 PM   #49
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When I brought my bike over the border, the letter had to come from the manufacturer or a licensed dealer. If your letter is from one of those two and is current then you're good to go.
Thanks timk, the letter is from an authorized BMW motorcycle dealer in Washington State. Did you use a letter from an american dealer?
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Old 12-20-2009, 02:36 PM   #50
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Thanks timk, the letter is from an authorized BMW motorcycle dealer in Washington State. Did you use a letter from an american dealer?
Yes. In my case I was importing a Valkyrie Interstate from a dealer in IN. The dealer put a letter together stating there were no outstanding recalls, and faxed the title to the US Customs / Border office for me ahead of time.
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:20 AM   #51
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I'll second that. I used a letter from a US dealer without question.

Good Luck with your import
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:27 PM   #52
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Insurance for transporting the motorcycle

Okay, I'm getting there...

To insure the motorbike for transportation while in the States to the border, ICBC will sell you a "Binder for Owner's Interim Certificate of Insurance"

However, ICBC tells me "The binder provides insurance coverage only to the vehicle. You will also have to check with each jurisdiction about obtaining an in-transit licensing permit for the vehicle."

Does anyone know if this type of permit is required in Washington or will the ICBC insurance discussed above be sufficient.

Thanks again and I promise to summarize each step i.e. based on the current 2009 policies when I'm done...also, promise to post some pics.
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:25 PM   #53
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Is there a definitive answer on whether it's legal to ride a bike you're importing home from the border? I know people have done it but is it legal? My understanding is that 1) It's illegal for a Canadian citizen to ride/drive a US registered vehicle in Canada 2) You can't register a vehicle in Ontario without a safety inspection or proof of previous registration as a "fit" vehicle in Ontario. I didn't think it was even possible to get a temp permit for this situation. Am I totally out to lunch on this? I've read through this type of thread on a couple of different forums and some say you have to trailer the bike home and others say its ok to ride it home. If anyone can give an authoritative answer it would be much appreciated! Thanks.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:01 PM   #54
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Contact the department of transportation and your insurance company to see what they say. They can issue temporary plates for a number of instances, or you can get temp plates from the state of sale and ride up on that.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:14 PM   #55
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Is there a definitive answer on whether it's legal to ride a bike you're importing home from the border? I know people have done it but is it legal? My understanding is that 1) It's illegal for a Canadian citizen to ride/drive a US registered vehicle in Canada 2) You can't register a vehicle in Ontario without a safety inspection or proof of previous registration as a "fit" vehicle in Ontario. I didn't think it was even possible to get a temp permit for this situation. Am I totally out to lunch on this? I've read through this type of thread on a couple of different forums and some say you have to trailer the bike home and others say its ok to ride it home. If anyone can give an authoritative answer it would be much appreciated! Thanks.
Big Chris, this certainly isn't an authoritative answer nor will it necessarily answer your question. However, I just brought a bike into BC from Washington on a trailer. The bike was insured by the Insur. Corp. of BC (ICBC) with a "Binder" for transportation and temporary storage purposes only i.e. as it was not registered in BC. I was specifically instructed by ICBC that their insurance would not cover me or the bike if I rode it in Canada or the US.

Once in the Canada, I can obtain a special permit from ICBC to ride the bike to Canadian Tire for an inspection and then directly to an ICBC broker to register and insure it.

In any event, I would not have been able to ride the bike in the US up to and past the border as the previous owner removed the plate and had it 'surrendered' to the state.

In theory, had he left the plate on and maintained its registration, I could have ridden it. However, had anything happened, the fact the title was no longer with him or in his name, could have been an issue. Also, I hazard to guess that Canadian Customs would not have allowed it "ridden" across the border without it being fully registered and insured in Canada.

Hope that helps.
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Old 01-03-2010, 02:52 PM   #56
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Not a bike, but a Class 8 truck ... I purchased used in Iowa, drove it to the border crossing at Emerson, MB on an Iowa "in transit" permit, and then from Emerson to Calgary on insurance and an "in transit" permit arranged before I went down to IA.

The truck was subject to all the same RIV regualtions and inspection requirements (Canadian Tire ) as a personal vehicle, such as a mortorcycle.
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Old 01-03-2010, 10:46 PM   #57
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Driving in BC with a US permit

Here are a couple of quotes on how to drive you M/C back to Canada.

Straight from ICBC

The binder is valid throughout Canada and the USA, but it does not include a point-A-to-B permit. In order to license the vehicle, you will need to get licence plates or a permit from the state in which the vehicle is currently located. You should check the licensing requirements with each jurisdiction through which you travel on your way back to BC to find out whether you would need plates or a permit from them in order to license the vehicle while it is traveling through their jurisdiction.

BC will honor a permit issued by another jurisdiction, unless the permit states restrictions that it is only valid in the jurisdiction where it was issued. If the out-of-province permit states such restrictions, you must obtain a BC Temporary Operation Permit (http://www.icbc.com/Glossary/def_top.asp), for inspection purposes, in order to operate the vehicle in BC. The restrictions on this Permit are outlined below.

However, if the out-of-province permit does not state such restrictions, the permit may be used to bring the vehicle to its BC destination.

An out-of-province permit is valid for either a period of time or a destination, depending on the conditions outlined on the permit by the issuing jurisdiction. Either the expiry date or location of the destination will be noted on the permit.

If the out-of-province permit is not restricted to a destination, but has an expiry date, you may operate the vehicle licensed by the out-of-province permit with the insurance provided by the binder until one of the following occurs:
the out-of-province permit expires, or the binder expires
If the out-of-province permit is restricted to a destination, it is void once the destination is reached.

Once the out-of-province permit has expired or is no longer valid, and you need to move the vehicle again for the purpose of registration and licensing it in BC, you may take out a one-day Temporary Operation Permit, for inspection purposes, in order to license the vehicle while it is in BC.

This type of Permit can be issued in accordance with Section 14.04 of the BC Motor Vehicle Act Regulations (http://www.qp.gov.bc.ca/statreg/reg/...m#section14.04) to license and insure the vehicle before it is registered in BC. This Permit would allow the vehicle to be driven to:
a federal inspection facility, if required a Designated Inspection Facility for:

provincial pre–registration inspection, and repair, if required, and immediately to an Autoplan broker's office for inspection of the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) and registration

This Permit would be effective for one calendar day only, but no licence fee would be charged. If the vehicle is kept for repairs for more than one day, another Permit would have to be issued, once the vehicle is repaired, to move the vehicle from the garage or repair facility to an inspection facility or an Autoplan broker's office.

Provided that your binder is still valid, there would be no charge for such a Permit.

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Hope this helps on the question about driving on a state licence permit and provincial Insurance.
The DMV lady in Illinois said that the 7 day Illinois licence permit is good for all of the states and also Canada.

To drive the M/C to B.C. you will need an APV 38 "binder for owners interm certificate of insurance."

You can buy the Binder for Owner's Interim Certificate of Insurance from any Autoplan broker.

This will allow you to ride the bike back, but you’ll have get a licence permt in the USA first and get a (I think a cardboard temporary plate) on the bike. No US plate, no insurance. To buy your insurance you’ll need a copy of your US original title/Bill of Sale, and the US temporary plate.
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Old 01-04-2010, 07:01 PM   #58
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Thanks for info guys. It sounds like it is possible to ride a bike from the border if you can arrange the right permits. I'm going to look into this and I'll try and post up the details for the Ontario permits required.
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:08 AM   #59
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Temp licence plate from the US.

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This will allow you to ride the bike back, but you’ll have get a licence permt in the USA first and get a (I think a cardboard temporary plate) on the bike. No US plate, no insurance. To buy your insurance you’ll need a copy of your US original title/Bill of Sale, and the US temporary plate

Here is a picture of the temporary Illinois permit, it's a 7 day cardboard plate. ICBC will only insure the bike, you need to get extra medical insurance for yourself.
BCAA or CAA can sell you that.
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Old 01-12-2010, 12:12 AM   #60
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Yep that is what I did, rode to the border in BC from WA State with WA plate, then rode home with no plate (I had to carry the ICBC forms and permits) then got a permit to go to Can Tire for inspection.

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