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Old 05-16-2013, 09:14 AM   #2041
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You don't understand the depth of the problem. I bought this bike FIVE years ago and haven't done a thing to it: 1971 Yamaha in a Trackmaster frame, Ceriani forks, Airheart brakes, etc. Never heard it run. I may have sat on it three times. I've been collecting period parts to fix it up right but, zero forward progress other than that. And this ain't the only project bike around here.



More pics here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=338106

I honestly figured somebody on here would be equally excited about the possibilities and grab the Harley.

Anybody more interested in the Yamaha?
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:31 AM   #2042
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I saw an XR 750 motor on Ebay..only $10,000..
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Old 05-16-2013, 11:36 AM   #2043
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The frame is worth whatever somebody will pay for it. Not to sound trite but, a guy that wants the bike will pay what he's asking. Here's what my research found. See if you agree or not.

I found another bike on a Sportster or flat track forum, with a similar situation (XR engine gone). They estimated the chassis to be worth about $2K and an XR engine in good running condition to be about $10K (!!).

Also: in the research, I found posts saying that Lawwill sold those frames for quite awhile. Some sources said that he eventually supplied the frames to Harley Davidson for the production bikes (not that many per year were made--someone had to make them). True? I dunno. I read it on the interwebs.

I've studied dozens of huge photos online and found the exact same frame on most of the XRs (some very distinct welding details around the steering head are the easy giveaway). So either that was true or the Lawwill frame became a defacto replacement for the factory frame (everybody had 'em).

Lawwill also sold a later chassis, easily identified by its square-section swingarm. I found that in a vintage Mert Lawwill catalog listed on ebay.

Finding an XR engine without a chassis should prove just next to impossible. Even if you did, buying a whole bike would be cheaper than trying to put this one back together...if it ever had an XR engine to begin with.

So it comes down to: what is the value of the frame and bodywork, some old Sportster hubs laced to Borrani rims and some period-correct but, ineffective brakes? With the questionable Ironhead lump, I'd put the value of the package at around $2500. That should have moved it in days. The proper answer is somewhere in the $1250 gap between my guesstimate and his "Firm" price.

My version of what to do with it? Put that chassis on a lift, pull the Ironhead and sell it for parts. Shoehorn a 1994-2002 Sportster 1200 engine in there--or better--a Buell Thunderstorm. Buy the Supertrapp 2-into-2 high-pipe tracker exhaust, spend a few grand on polishing the wheels, plating the frame and painting the bodywork.

The result would be faster, more reliable and would look more like an XR750 than the current engine. It would instantly gain electric starting, left-hand shift and a rear master cylinder mounted by the factory, to the right engine case. It fixes so many things, so smartly and so easily that it seems like a no-brainer.

I have everything to do it except money and time.

Come on, I figured somebody on this thread would have seen that and grabbed it up.
DK....I'd go look at the bike and bring some cash. I'd make an offer and see if the seller will accept. If he agreed..I'd take that beast home and strip it to the frame. I would probably follow your line of thinking and install a later model Sporty motor. There is enough stuff available on EBay and other sources to put together a very nice bike.
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Old 05-16-2013, 03:36 PM   #2044
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If you're at all serious, PM me. I doubt you are...just poking me to buy the other one.
I've got a hundred and fifty something bucks in my pocket right now. How much do think your non-running 1970's Japanese bike is worth?
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:59 PM   #2045
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How much do think your non-running 1970's Japanese bike is worth?
It's worth more than twenty times that $150 that I'm into it.

I blame all of this illness on going to see this at six years old with my friend and his mom. To a little kid who barely rode a bicycle at that time, seeing this on a giant screen, in a dark theater permanently altered my little brain.



Thanks for all the thoughts. The Harley is now listed on Ebay with a couple of days to go. He'll probably get his money and one of you will have secretly bought it. We expect to see pictures of the progress.
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Old 05-17-2013, 10:54 AM   #2046
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It's worth more than twenty times that $150 that I'm into it.

I blame all of this illness on going to see this at six years old with my friend and his mom. To a little kid who barely rode a bicycle at that time, seeing this on a giant screen, in a dark theater permanently altered my li
150$? You DEVIL!
Thanks for posting the OAS video, because I ran across this after viewing it.
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:07 PM   #2047
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:03 PM   #2048
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You did a pretty spectacular job with the lighting in that pic.

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Old 06-09-2013, 07:24 PM   #2049
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You did a pretty spectacular job with the lighting in that pic.
right place right time..

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Old 06-11-2013, 06:42 PM   #2050
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Right equipment too
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:57 PM   #2051
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The beginnings of my practice tracker.

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Old 06-12-2013, 03:30 PM   #2052
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:41 PM   #2053
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Old 06-13-2013, 09:28 AM   #2054
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there's some crazy dudes out there
that's Super Hunky.
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Old 06-13-2013, 03:37 PM   #2055
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i beleive that is jimmy raymond..... could be wrong, but i know ive seen this dood at costa mesa speedway's harley nite for years and years.
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