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Old 10-18-2007, 07:59 PM   #1
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Tents with "livable" vestibules, for Kermit chairs e.t.c. Any ideas?

I have a great tent with an awesome sized vestibule but I want to see what you guys are using anyway. I was looking at some of the tents below. I was bored I made a quick chart to see all the specs at once to compare.

Here's my tent, a Walrus Velodome. This is a great tent. about 40sq internally and the same for the vestibule. Long at nearly 8ft and plenty wide at 5ft, most tents this size list it at a 3 person, Walrus listed it as a two, wisely and its a very roomy two at that. On more than one occasion this past summer I was caught in the rain, having a vestibule this size allowed me to throw two Kermits in there along with a small table to cook, make coffee, drink, play poker. It really is a life saver.

Packed size 6x17"
Weight 7lbs
Dimensions 7'10"x5' (96"x60")
Vestibule 40sq ft. Its just a bit bigger than the tent, and a little taller. I'll double check but I think it's a bit deeper also. Possibly 8'x6'

MSR also makes a Velo tent but it's only 4'4 wide and not as long as the Walrus Velo. It's 8" narrower and 10" shorter, the vestibule is also oddly shaped, it's also heavier, but GSBS will be right here in a few to let you know how great it is. (It is a great tent, I bought one recently and used it a few times but sold it when I found the Walrus)

Ok here are the tents I find to be suitable if and when my Walrus ever quits or if I want another style. In no particular order.

Big Agnes Emerald Mountain SL3 w\ optional vestibule.
Packed size 6x18
Weight 5lbs 14oz
Dimensions 90"x70" 44" height
Vestibule is 68x90x41"

Coleman Phad 3
Packed size 7x17"
Weight 8lbs 10oz
Dimensions 82x72x41"
Vestibule ~6ftx4ft (here's a little review)

Coleman Celsius Duo 3
Packed size 9x23" (not bad considering it's size)
Weight about 20lbs!
Dimensions 85x70x55"
Vestibule 61" height (basically a second room)
Pros - It's not really a vestibule, it's a second room.
Cons - Not available in the US (and this is a coleman!)
- It's 20 freaking lbs!!!

Hillelberg Nallo GT
Packed size ???
Weight 6lbs
Dimensions 64x87" or 38 ft
Vestibule 64x71" or 30
ft
Pro's - Vestibule can be opened two ways (check it out)
Cons - Must be staked (like all hoop tents)
- it's $615! + shipping!

MSR Velo
Packed Size 6x20"
Weight 9.4lbs
Dimensions 7x4'4"x42" or 33 sq ft.
Vestibule same size as the tent, 33sq ft
Cons - $449

Mt Sun Touring Co. Outpost 3
Packed size 6x28"
Weight 9lbs
Dimensions 7x7x4'4"
Vestibule 4x7'4"
Cons - 28" packed length
- Fiberglass poles


Vaude Monolith
Packed Size ???
Weight 9lbs
Dimensions 63x103x48" or 38sq ft (nice!)
Vestibule, same size as the tent
only con is it's no longer made so check eBay. But then again Walrus was also bought out by MSR and you can no longer find the Velodrome either.

Kifaru used to make an ultralight backpack sized 4 man tipi tent complete with stove\heater, I'll have to dig up the specs on that. Only con to those tents is the lack of a floor, but you can't have a floor when there is a wood burning stove\heater in the middle of your tent. Since it won numerous awards they will make one if you order it, but they aren't stocked.
Packed Size ???
Weight 3lbs 7oz (add 4lbs 6oz for the stove)
Dimensions ???
Pros - It has a stove so you can cook inside and since it doubles as a stove you actually have to take your jackets off even in freezing temperaturs. It becomes a sauna!
Cons - It's $800
- Having a heater means the inside temps will be about 40 degrees warmer, so condensation will be a major problem.

Here's a review

There are a few otherss whose specs I don't have at the moment.
Jack Wolfskin Lighthouse 2
Vaude Hogan
Terra Nova makes one or two also


If anyone has any other interesting tent recommendations based on these requirements I'd love to hear 'em. Or based on the above info\specs which would you pick and why?

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Old 10-18-2007, 08:05 PM   #2
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Don't know if this is larger than you're looking for, but here ya go:
http://www.mt-sun.com/catalog.php?type=product&id=76352
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Old 10-18-2007, 08:19 PM   #3
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Coleman lists the weight for the Phad X3 on their site.

Pack weight: 8 lbs 10 oz

http://www.coleman.com/coleman/colem...tegoryid=11070
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:54 PM   #4
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I had that tent listed in my chart, I failed to put it in my post though, seems like a very good sized tent. I'll add it now.
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Don't know if this is larger than you're looking for, but here ya go:
http://www.mt-sun.com/catalog.php?type=product&id=76352
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:49 AM   #5
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Been lookin at the Big Agnes Emerald Mountain myself, anybody got one or seen one in real life?
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:26 AM   #6
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:33 AM   #7
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Vestibule? This one has a fooking garage!



KTM Bike Tent

Breathable mesh panels for warm weather ventilation. Rolls into convenient carry bag for storage. Large enough for the 990 ADV. Dimensions (tent) 96" x 84" x 52". Dimensions (bike tent) 100" x 91" x 66".

Price: $149.99


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Old 10-19-2007, 11:06 AM   #8
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I prefer to use a tarp with my tent when bike camping. I have a parawing similar to this one..



I use a Bibler Eldo (would work with any tent) with the tarp covering the front. I'll take some pictures the next trip. Gives me a very nice sheltered area in front of the tent. Does take up a lot of real estate, tho.
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:34 AM   #9
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Umm I had that link up there already, but thanx!
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Old 10-19-2007, 11:39 AM   #10
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Nice, but it looks like a warm weather tent, something to be used during Baja or Dakar. They also make the same one in hemi err KTM orange.

Speaking of tents with a garage, check this out, its kinda huge though. www.bikertent.com
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KTM Bike Tent

Breathable mesh panels for warm weather ventilation. Rolls into convenient carry bag for storage. Large enough for the 990 ADV. Dimensions (tent) 96" x 84" x 52". Dimensions (bike tent) 100" x 91" x 66".

Price: $149.99


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Old 10-19-2007, 11:42 AM   #11
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consider using an add on vestibule on to a "normal" design tent when needed.

I'm very happy with the Moto-cabana tarp as sold by Mt. Sun Touring. It comes with one pole for the front and uses your tent to support the other end. Big space. Park two GS under the tarp if desired or a lot of room for friends for shelter from sun or rain.

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Old 10-20-2007, 02:46 AM   #12
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I also am a tent + tarp guy. An 8x10 siltarp weighs a pound, takes very little space. Makes a great cooking shelter, especially if you need to keep your food downwind and distant from camp.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:37 PM   #13
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I was looking at those, I like the idea, only downside is not being able to close it off during wind+rain situations. But for a covered porch it looks to be awesome. Do you have any more pictures of your setup? Looks like a pretty large tipi tent, whats the make\model? Also while I'm at it whats it say on your Kermit chair? I should send mine back for embroidery. Something like "reserved" to keep asshats from plopping their ass in it.


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consider using an add on vestibule on to a "normal" design tent when needed.

I'm very happy with the Moto-cabana tarp as sold by Mt. Sun Touring. It comes with one pole for the front and uses your tent to support the other end. Big space. Park two GS under the tarp if desired or a lot of room for friends for shelter from sun or rain.

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Old 11-11-2007, 10:09 PM   #14
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I was looking at those, I like the idea, only downside is not being able to close it off during wind+rain situations. But for a covered porch it looks to be awesome. Do you have any more pictures of your setup? Looks like a pretty large tipi tent, whats the make\model? Also while I'm at it whats it say on your Kermit chair? I should send mine back for embroidery. Something like "reserved" to keep asshats from plopping their ass in it.
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Old 11-12-2007, 06:30 AM   #15
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Came across this site

http://www.vango.co.uk

and in particular these tents

http://www.vango.co.uk/products/tent...p?typename=268



They have several tents that looks exactly the same but are priced differently. Not sure why. I have someone in the UK trying to find out.

These look very promising.

If I get one I'll post up a review.
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