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Old 11-15-2007, 12:11 PM   #31
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What kind of table is that? I was looking at the GCI tables at campmor, same ones that aerostich sells.
I made it from aluminum sheeting. I pop riveted some Cordura nylon straps to both pieces to form a 'hinge' which allows me to fold the table and stow it neatly and securely on top of my topcase underneath the tarp and tent.
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:29 AM   #32
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I made it from aluminum sheeting. I pop riveted some Cordura nylon straps to both pieces to form a 'hinge' which allows me to fold the table and stow it neatly and securely on top of my topcase underneath the tarp and tent.
Nice. So I am not seeing things, you've got it supported on panniers! I like it.
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Old 11-16-2007, 07:13 AM   #33
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Nice. So I am not seeing things, you've got it supported on panniers! I like it.
That table's super cool...

I don't have the metal skills nor the equipment that some of these folks do to manufacture my own, but if you're interested in a good camp table, I bought this one. Packs up smaller than a kermit chair and at 19" high it's the perfect height for setting between a couple of kermit chairs.

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Old 11-16-2007, 10:13 AM   #34
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That table's super cool...

I don't have the metal skills nor the equipment that some of these folks do to manufacture my own, but if you're interested in a good camp table, I bought this one. Packs up smaller than a kermit chair and at 19" high it's the perfect height for setting between a couple of kermit chairs.

Thanks for that.
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:53 AM   #35
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Thanks for that.


Here's the link http://www.gcioutdoor.com/products_topshelf.htm
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Old 11-18-2007, 01:58 PM   #36
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So here is my first lame run at doing this. I think I'll end up getting a second pole and when I'm with someone else, their tent is the other wall. I like this as it allows me to open my tent into the "garage" (and it is tall enough to get a bike or 2 under it) thus making exit a completely dry affair.

What do you guys think?

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Old 11-18-2007, 02:56 PM   #37
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I have a couple of Hilleberg tents for backpacking (Akto and Nammatj 2), and a Keron 4 GT or Nallo 4 GT might meet your needs, but I think putting a bike in to a Keron or Nallo vestibule will be a bit of a chore, and more importantly -- with a Hilleberg, you're paying a premium for the light weight - they are backpacking tents after all. For a motorcycle tent, I don't see that tradeoff being worth it. But carrying it on my back - absolutely. When I solo, I even leave the Akto inner at home...
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Old 03-05-2008, 06:59 PM   #38
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I have a great tent with an awesome sized vestibule but I want to see what you guys are using anyway. I was looking at some of the tents below. I was bored I made a quick chart to see all the specs at once to compare.

Here's my tent, a Walrus Velodome. This is a great tent. about 40sq internally and the same for the vestibule. Long at nearly 8ft and plenty wide at 5ft, most tents this size list it at a 3 person, Walrus listed it as a two, wisely and its a very roomy two at that. On more than one occasion this past summer I was caught in the rain, having a vestibule this size allowed me to throw two Kermits in there along with a small table to cook, make coffee, drink, play poker. It really is a life saver.

Packed size 6x17"
Weight 7lbs
Dimensions 7'10"x5' (96"x60")
Vestibule 40sq ft. Its just a bit bigger than the tent, and a little taller. I'll double check but I think it's a bit deeper also. Possibly 8'x6'

MSR also makes a Velo tent but it's only 4'4 wide and not as long as the Walrus Velo. It's 8" narrower and 10" shorter, the vestibule is also oddly shaped, it's also heavier, but GSBS will be right here in a few to let you know how great it is. (It is a great tent, I bought one recently and used it a few times but sold it when I found the Walrus)

Ok here are the tents I find to be suitable if and when my Walrus ever quits or if I want another style. In no particular order.

Big Agnes Emerald Mountain SL3 w\ optional vestibule.
Packed size 6x18
Weight 5lbs 14oz
Dimensions 90"x70" 44" height
Vestibule is 68x90x41"

Coleman Phad 3
Packed size 7x17"
Weight 8lbs 10oz
Dimensions 82x72x41"
Vestibule ~6ftx4ft (here's a little review)

Coleman Celsius Duo 3
Packed size 9x23" (not bad considering it's size)
Weight about 20lbs!
Dimensions 85x70x55"
Vestibule 61" height (basically a second room)
Pros - It's not really a vestibule, it's a second room.
Cons - Not available in the US (and this is a coleman!)
- It's 20 freaking lbs!!!

Hillelberg Nallo GT
Packed size ???
Weight 6lbs
Dimensions 64x87" or 38˛ ft
Vestibule 64x71" or 30
˛ ft
Pro's - Vestibule can be opened two ways (check it out)
Cons - Must be staked (like all hoop tents)
- it's $615! + shipping!

MSR Velo
Packed Size 6x20"
Weight 9.4lbs
Dimensions 7x4'4"x42" or 33 sq ft.
Vestibule same size as the tent, 33sq ft
Cons - $449

Mt Sun Touring Co. Outpost 3
Packed size 6x28"
Weight 9lbs
Dimensions 7x7x4'4"
Vestibule 4x7'4"
Cons - 28" packed length
- Fiberglass poles


Vaude Monolith
Packed Size ???
Weight 9lbs
Dimensions 63x103x48" or 38sq ft (nice!)
Vestibule, same size as the tent
only con is it's no longer made so check eBay. But then again Walrus was also bought out by MSR and you can no longer find the Velodrome either.

Kifaru used to make an ultralight backpack sized 4 man tipi tent complete with stove\heater, I'll have to dig up the specs on that. Only con to those tents is the lack of a floor, but you can't have a floor when there is a wood burning stove\heater in the middle of your tent. Since it won numerous awards they will make one if you order it, but they aren't stocked.
Packed Size ???
Weight 3lbs 7oz (add 4lbs 6oz for the stove)
Dimensions ???
Pros - It has a stove so you can cook inside and since it doubles as a stove you actually have to take your jackets off even in freezing temperaturs. It becomes a sauna!
Cons - It's $800
- Having a heater means the inside temps will be about 40 degrees warmer, so condensation will be a major problem.

Here's a review

There are a few otherss whose specs I don't have at the moment.
Jack Wolfskin Lighthouse 2
Vaude Hogan
Terra Nova makes one or two also


If anyone has any other interesting tent recommendations based on these requirements I'd love to hear 'em. Or based on the above info\specs which would you pick and why?
I found a copy of the Velo produced in a small number by the Italian hiking boot company, Asolo. The tent is called the Swift 2 and is/was marketed by Infinity Outdoor. I am not sure if it was discontinued.

Then another with a large vestibule is the Outbound Outpost Long 3 seen here:

http://www.outbound.ca/Explorer-Seri...uct-flyer.html

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Old 03-06-2008, 05:11 AM   #39
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After a few tent issues this last summer, I ended up buying an Exped Andromeda. It is similar in design as a Hilleberg but for less $$ and they do come with a 5 year warranty. The features of this tent are amazing and it took me a day to figure out all the neat little details that the tent has.
Check it out on http://www.moontrail.com/exped-andromeda.php
There isn't room for the bike in the vestibule but two people and kermits do fit. The ventilation options are amazing as the 'backside' where your feet would be, rolls up for extra ventilation.
I was at the BMWNEF rally where we had 40MPH wind and rain and I stayed dry. You do have to seamseal the outer tent polesleeves, even though Exped says it isn't needed.
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Old 03-06-2008, 06:07 AM   #40
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kelty sunshade (water resistant too)

I use this . very flexible , you can adjust it down low or up high,

will fit over a table and a few chairs, packs up about the same size as a small tent.

http://www.kelty.com/kelty/products....&cat=63&id=160

about 10 lbs, straps across the back of my rack with msr mutha
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Old 03-06-2008, 01:15 PM   #41
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+1 for Tarp.
Get rid of the rain fly that comes with the tent, takes up too much room. Also get rid of the bag that comes with the tent and use a small stuff sack. It's quicker to pack in the morning and takes up less room. Just stick your poles in a side back or on the back of the bike. You need the right sized tarp, 4 bungees and 3 tent stakes. Ideally you need one tree but can use your bike instead.....Here's if you have a tree:


Here's if you don't have a tree (rocks not needed....very long story):

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Old 03-06-2008, 01:33 PM   #42
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good eye, that's denali highway at about 10:30 at night.
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good eye, that's denali highway at about 10:30 at night.
I'll be there this summer. Whoo Hoo!

Did you just pull over or is that a campground? I'm doing my planning and intend to spend one night on the Denali Hwy.
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