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Old 06-10-2011, 08:52 AM   #2596
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The Spot Connect app is buggy

I just got back from a 10 day trip and used a new spot connect to track progress. The device itself did a better job of tracking than my Spot 1 (fewer missed messages) but the app on the phone is clearly a few steps shy of "production quality".



I have an HTC EVO 4G (Android) and it's been rock solid stable. Once I start the Spot Connect app however things go downhill...
  1. Eventual crashing of the phone - reboots itself or just turns off.
  2. Phone will become VERY sluggish (basically unusable) after a few hours. I made it all the way to the evening on a couple of days but about 80% of the time it was toast by the time I stopped for dinner. The only way out is a reboot and to get that to happen I have to remove the battery or be very persistent with trying to get the power button to react.
  3. Using the task killer to stop the app (since it has no 'Exit' function of it's own) will immediatly put the phone into the sluggish/unresponsive state. Obviously the app leaves some other process running that go nuts and just eats up all the CPU if the main process dies.
None of those things happen, ever, if I don't start the Spot App.



A few other nit's...
  1. Bluetooth connection to the Connect drops randomly (never happens on other BT connections). Have to do a "reconnect device" before doing anything.
  2. Random 'failed to authenticate' errors when connecting. Just have to do it over and over until it works.
  3. Unexpected closing of the app for no reason when navigating buttons. This only happened a few times and I'm guessing it's the app crashing.
  4. The app can be a real battery drain, even without connecting the device via BT. I normally can go a couple of days between charges with normal use. With the app going I won't make it a full day. Given that the app doesn't provide a way for the user to shut it down and using a task killer causes the phone to become unresponsive that leaves the option of turning off the phone to kill the app in order to save the battery - very sloppy.
When it works it works OK. I was able to type and send messages and send predefined messages without a lot of drama.

I've never found the Spot website software to be very good, in fact it's pathetic for the most part, and the Connect app is maybe one step above that. It works when it works but it has a couple of whopper bugs that any self-respecting programmer would have cleaned up before declaring it ready to go. Hopefully there will be a v2.0 coming out that fixes the really nasty problems.
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:58 PM   #2597
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Does the Spot 2 automatically shut off for any reason ? For example if you have it inside the house with no gps connection,..should it turn off by itself after a while ? Thats what im seeing these days on mine.

Ive had it for 2 weeks or so so the batteries are new.
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Old 06-10-2011, 08:36 PM   #2598
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I don't think it'll shut off automatically, but it generally won't be able to send messages if it's indoors.

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Does the Spot 2 automatically shut off for any reason ? For example if you have it inside the house with no gps connection,..should it turn off by itself after a while ? Thats what im seeing these days on mine.

Ive had it for 2 weeks or so so the batteries are new.
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:31 AM   #2599
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NEEDED: Active SPOT promo code

I recently bought a SPOT finder and was looking for an active promo code. I tried using the THUMPERTALK code but that seems to be invalid now. My new unit says it has a 15% discount code none was in the box. There are some out there that give tracking for free but haven't been able to find.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 06-11-2011, 10:09 AM   #2600
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If your SPOT came with the "Adventure Kit", then there's a little card in there with a promo code for 15% (basically $15) off the basic service. There are no other ongoing promotions at this time, other than the $50 mail-in rebate on the SPOT 2 (restrictions apply, etc.).

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I recently bought a SPOT finder and was looking for an active promo code. I tried using the THUMPERTALK code but that seems to be invalid now. My new unit says it has a 15% discount code none was in the box. There are some out there that give tracking for free but haven't been able to find.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 06-11-2011, 12:43 PM   #2601
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Question How many different SPOTs are there?

Help! I find conflicting names and descriptions for SPOT products:
a) SPOT Connect ==> http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=116
b) SPOT Satellite GPS Messenger ==> http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=102
c) SPOT Personal Tracker ==> http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=101 and maybe http://www.amazon.com/SPOT-Inc-SPOT-1-Personal-Tracker/dp/B000YTZV74
d) SPOT-2 ==> http://www.amazon.com/New-SPOT-Satellite-GPS-Messenger/dp/B004JZ85AE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1307819811&sr=8-6
e) SPOT-1 (no longer available?)

The first three are from the findmespot site, so I assume that they are the current product line.
But it seems as if the names are morphed and mixed on other web sites, including advrider. So is there a 'genealogy' from the SPOT-1 to what is offered today?
For my situation (provide location/tracking info and emergency response), I want one that is independent of cell phones.
Can someone provide a tutorial or history? And why one chooses one over an other?
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Old 06-11-2011, 01:02 PM   #2602
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Question Service plans / options

Are all the SPOT service plans and options provided by (or through) findmespot?
1) basic services ==> http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=103
2) additional services ==> http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=110
Spot Adventures in the basic service ($99/year) says: Share your progress on a Live Map, whereas
Track Progress (for another $50/year) says: automatically sends your GPS location waypoint to a Google Map every 10 minutes.
Can someone explain the difference?
Thanks again,
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Old 06-11-2011, 01:05 PM   #2603
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Problem is that my adventure kit didn't have the promocode in it. I got the device as a return at Cabelas and the promo went missing before it made it to me. Probably will have to call them but you sit on the damn phone for so long with those folks.
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Old 06-11-2011, 01:25 PM   #2604
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Roughly chronological:
- SPOT Personal Tracker = SPOT 1
- SPOT Satellite GPS Messenger = SPOT 2
- Intrinsically Safe SPOT
- SPOT Satellite Communicator (for DeLorme PN-60w GPS)
- SPOT Connect

Independent of other devices:
- SPOT 1 is old and more or less discontinued
- SPOT 2 is current and an improvement over the SPOT 1 <-- this is the one that it sounds like you want
- Intrinsically Safe SPOT is a SPOT 2 certified for use in areas of volatile vapors where "intrinsically safe" devices are required

Depends on DeLorme PN-60w GPS:
- SPOT Satellite Communicator

Depends on iPhone/Android phone:
- SPOT Connect

No two devices look exactly the same, so you can use the picture to help identify.

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Help! I find conflicting names and descriptions for SPOT products:
a) SPOT Connect ==> http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=116
b) SPOT Satellite GPS Messenger ==> http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=102
c) SPOT Personal Tracker ==> http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=101 and maybe http://www.amazon.com/SPOT-Inc-SPOT-1-Personal-Tracker/dp/B000YTZV74
d) SPOT-2 ==> http://www.amazon.com/New-SPOT-Satellite-GPS-Messenger/dp/B004JZ85AE/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1307819811&sr=8-6
e) SPOT-1 (no longer available?)

The first three are from the findmespot site, so I assume that they are the current product line.
But it seems as if the names are morphed and mixed on other web sites, including advrider. So is there a 'genealogy' from the SPOT-1 to what is offered today?
For my situation (provide location/tracking info and emergency response), I want one that is independent of cell phones.
Can someone provide a tutorial or history? And why one chooses one over an other?
Thanks,
-ceej
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Old 06-11-2011, 01:37 PM   #2605
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All of the SPOT service plans are provided by and/or through SPOT directly.

Basic service ( is the basic messaging service that allows you to send the predefined messages (OK, Help, SOS/911, and a custom message if you're using a SPOT 2). You can't use a SPOT without this.

The tracking service is what actually allows you to use the tracking feature, automatically sending out your location every 10 minutes. I think that a lot of people buy a SPOT for this feature, so that their friends/family can track their progress in semi-real time.

There are also some other services available, notably the GEOS Member Rescue benefit; basically like cheap insurance to cover the expenses of a SAR effort to find/rescue/extract you.

The free SPOT adventures site just allows you to make a simple web site about your trip based on your SPOT messages. Personally, I don't see a lot of value in it for me, but YMMV.

I always advise people to get the tracking and GEOS member rescue benefit services on top of the basic service; without those you miss out on a lot of the benefits of the SPOT and might as well just get a personal locator beacon (no subscription cost) instead.

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Are all the SPOT service plans and options provided by (or through) findmespot?
1) basic services ==> http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=103
2) additional services ==> http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=110
Spot Adventures in the basic service ($99/year) says: Share your progress on a Live Map, whereas
Track Progress (for another $50/year) says: automatically sends your GPS location waypoint to a Google Map every 10 minutes.
Can someone explain the difference?
Thanks again,
-ceej
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Old 06-11-2011, 02:26 PM   #2606
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without me opening the Connect open it takes double A batteries? I am lazy...and we need to buy more batteries for our trip...sorry for the dumb lazy ass question
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Old 06-11-2011, 02:40 PM   #2607
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without me opening the connect open it takes double a batteries? i am lazy...and we need to buy more batteries for our trip...sorry for the dumb lazy ass question

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Old 06-11-2011, 02:46 PM   #2608
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why thank you!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-11-2011, 03:23 PM   #2609
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You're welcome! SPOT does strongly recommend using that specific model of battery, not just any old AA-size.
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Old 06-11-2011, 04:43 PM   #2610
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Thank You!
Interesting that the Personal Tracker (aka SPOT-1) is so prominantly displayed on their web site.
I'll focus on the SPOT-2.
-ceej

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Roughly chronological:
- SPOT Personal Tracker = SPOT 1
- SPOT Satellite GPS Messenger = SPOT 2
- Intrinsically Safe SPOT
- SPOT Satellite Communicator (for DeLorme PN-60w GPS)
- SPOT Connect

Independent of other devices:
- SPOT 1 is old and more or less discontinued
- SPOT 2 is current and an improvement over the SPOT 1 <-- this is the one that it sounds like you want
- Intrinsically Safe SPOT is a SPOT 2 certified for use in areas of volatile vapors where "intrinsically safe" devices are required

Depends on DeLorme PN-60w GPS:
- SPOT Satellite Communicator

Depends on iPhone/Android phone:
- SPOT Connect

No two devices look exactly the same, so you can use the picture to help identify.
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