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Old 11-09-2007, 02:08 PM   #1
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ADVICE: Used Super Sherpa or New XT225 (similar price)

(MODS-Please remove duplicate post in "Jo Momma"...I forgot the "Thumper Forum" existed, as I haven't been on ADV in the last year or so..

I have a dilemma guys....maybe some of you can chime in.....

I have an appointment to see a 2002 Kawasaki Super Sherpa next week, in what I believe to be in good condition, with 2,000 miles on it. By “good”, I mean it appears to be slightly weathered from the pictures, having spent most of its life on the back of a motorhome.. There are a couple of tidbits that I can see in the pics that have surface rust, such as the muffler bracket, but it is to be expected for a 5 year old bike that lived out in the weather I guess The owner wants $2700 for the bike and a 2” hitch motorcycle carrier.

Also, I know where a “145 mile” Yamaha XT225 is right now, in “brand new” condition, for $3200 (I may be able to get it for a little less).. The owner (lady) put 145 miles on it, before she dismounted and broker her collarbone.. She let me ride it, and it is flawless..

I sold my KLR650 2 years ago, but am going to buy a brand new one in August of 2008, when I get my next big pay raise..

The intent with these little dual sports was to buy a bike that I can bum around on in meantime, and a bike that I can teach my wife to ride on, so we can ride together when I get that new KLR next year..

Which bike would you choose?

Why?
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Old 11-09-2007, 02:31 PM   #2
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Super Sherpa has rear disc brake and a bit bigger engine. No aftermarket tanks are available for it, although a guy did fit an aftermarket XR650R tank to his Super Sherpa (I was looking into getting one before I landed my DR350). If only you could get a ride on both bikes before buying.
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Old 11-09-2007, 02:37 PM   #3
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Super Sherpa has rear disc brake and a bit bigger engine. No aftermarket tanks are available for it, although a guy did fit an aftermarket XR650R tank to his Super Sherpa (I was looking into getting one before I landed my DR350). If only you could get a ride on both bikes before buying.
I can....I'm going to ride the Sherpa next week..

I'm just afraid the XT (female owned, 145 miles, brand new) for the same price, might be a better deal...and I'm almost afraid to pass it up...

However, I can't see the Sherpa until late next week, and the XT may be gone..
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:39 PM   #4
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Hey! I haven't ridden an XT, but I just celebrated a year with my Sherpa. From what I've read in reviews about the XT, there isn't much difference despite the larger engine in the Sherpa. Tons of similarities, won't get into them.

Two things I would consider, though: 1) compare aftermarket farkles. Not huge, but something to think about.

2) If you're in the States, your Kawasaki dealer may not carry Sherpa parts. I found this out on my trip! Might help you avoid headache later on.

That being said, I still wuv my widdle bike.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:08 PM   #5
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Either one would be a great bike for the beginner in your family or to have a blast on if you aren't trying to prove anything.

You wouldn't exactly be stealing either one at the prices you quote, so I wouldn't get too worked up if you don't buy one of them. I was at the local dealer this week and saw a leftover XT225. I don't remember the exact price, but it seems like it wasn't too far north of $3500. Here's a guy on Craigslist with a pair of them he describes as "excellent showroom condition" with only 400 miles for $3000 each.
http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/mcy/436135156.html

Nothing wrong with paying a premium price for an immaculate used bike. Good luck.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:18 PM   #6
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Here's a link on the known weaknesses of the XT225: http://www.angelfire.com/sports/serowpages/#weakness

XT225 Forum: http://www.xt225.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm

Cool XT225 Blog: http://bluepoof.blogs.com/motorcycle...row/index.html

Forum with a lot of Super Sherpa information: http://www.klr650.net/forums/forumdi...er=desc&page=2

Super Sherpa Yahoo Groups (You have to join to view contents--good stuff, though):
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...3_SUPERSHERPA/
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http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/SuperSherpa/
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:38 PM   #7
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Which bike would you choose? Why?
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11631
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:04 PM   #8
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Doesn't the XT have a larger diam rear wheel?
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:20 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the great replies guys!!!
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:39 AM   #10
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I recently got a 2003 Super Sherpa with 963 miles on it for $1800 from my local dealer. It's in like new condition. At the time I bought it, the NADA book value was a little less than $2100. The book value for the 2002 Super Sherpa you are looking at is currently $1750. So I'd visit www.nadaguide.com and print out the value sheet for the 2002 Super Sherpa and use that to negotiate with the seller if you like the bike.

I've ridden a couple of XT225s and used to own a KLR250. They are great bikes but I think the Super Sherpa is better than both of those. It's great fun to ride both on & off road, has pretty good off idle/low end torque, weighs 280lbs with a full tank, and gets great gas mileage. My last tank fillup got a little over 76 MPG. I also own a KLR and the Super Sherpa is a great complement to it.

To answer Lone Rider's question, both the Super Sherpa and XT225 have 18" rear and 21" front wheels.
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:29 AM   #11
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For price comparison, my husband just bought a new 2006 XT from an Alabama dealer for $3350 with dealer financing 6 mos same as cash, no money down.

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Old 11-10-2007, 06:16 AM   #12
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No experience on the XT but the S Sherpa was a great first bike for my 14 yr old.
I think there's better bargains available, especially nearing the end of riding season (for some). On the Kaw I would show up with $1500 and do the take-it-or-leave-it thing.
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Old 11-10-2007, 07:02 AM   #13
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My wife loves here XT, I rode it a bit... it's geared very low (I recently installed a 16t c/s sprocket, and that helped a ton). Hers is a 2007 and the jetting was very lean, shimmed the needle .020" and turned out the pilot screw to 3 turns. Runs really strong, it's good enough for the legal highway speeds, although 65 the rpm's are a bit high.

The first 3 gears in the tranny are very close together and very low, until we upped the c/s sprocket, for the most part she was skipping 2nd entirely. We haven't done much dirt beyond fire road kinda stuff.

I think it's a fun bike, the engine it likely bullet proof. About the only bummer for use is the limited range, about 120miles before reserve. On the other hand, it's nice to get a break.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:03 PM   #14
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Thanks guys...

Bought the XT225 today...

Still going to look at the Sherpa next week though..

Taught my wife to ride in our pasture for a couple hours (she'd never operated a clutch before today).

She did very well, and we did a 20 mile ride this afternoon on secondary county gravel roads...and she loved it..

It looks like I might just have a great riding partner in the near future..

I put 40 miles on the XT myself this afternoon, riding into a neighboring county on dirt county roads... Fun, fun bike, but very cramped for my 6 ft / 230 lb frame..

If I don't get the Sherpa next week...I'm going to be looking for an older DR350, DRZ400 or DR650 for myself.

I just can't make up my mind which I want...

I like the idea of "simplicity", with the DR350 that I'm looking at on Craiglist, but wonder if it will be enough of an upgrade from the XT225 in seat height, comfort and power to keep me happy.

I hear the DRZ's are awesome, but very tall and uncomfortable..

The DR650 is probably too big to do the dirt-county-road-riding that I plan to do with the wife, but for some reason I'm a "bigger is better" guy, and they appeal to me to be a more simple, reliable, less top heavy alternate to the KLR650 I owned before. (FWIW-I'm keeping my little gal far away from Interstates and Highways for a long time, and we're just going to do county roads together).

Anway, here's a couple pics of my new riding partner-in-training.



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Old 11-10-2007, 10:05 PM   #15
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Unless you are a real little guy, the DR650 is an awesome dirt road bike that can do road work . . . it is not a dirtbike in the flying through single track sense, but anything that could be described as a road it will handle with ease.
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