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Old 02-06-2012, 01:55 PM   #44161
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GCMK sez:

"Like I said, electric stuff....yikes. I can stand there and pretend to learn it, but realistically, not going to happen."

If it is actually wiring the bike up, electrics are fairly simple....seriously

Just remember, it has to have a way to get power in and a way to get power out....just like a 2 way street.

For a very basic light system, you will need a power source from the bike (or a small rechargeable battery), wire from the source to the brake light switch then to the brake light. Headlight and taillight can be a common switch (on/off) and a single wire to each light. Plus a fuse to protect things. IMO, for any wiring system, a simple harness ground tying the lights into a common ground point on the bike (it should already have a ground point on the frame somewhere) and that is it.

For something that basic, it will take longer to get the tank/seat off to properly route the wires than it will take to do the wiring.
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Old 02-06-2012, 02:39 PM   #44162
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OK, from reading online (so you know it's true) I've read that Ohio actually does not require inspections. It is up to you to be sure your bike is legal:
Depends on the county / title office

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Sounds like you're going to need a Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin. Not sure how to go about getting this, but that appears to be all you'll need from a political standpoint.
There are perfectly legal ways around this with a dirt bike as long as you know it isn't stolen and hopefully your insurance company can confirm that when you tell them you are thinking of buying this bike and here is the VIN... follow the steps, get a dirt title, then do the conversion and get a street title - maybe not in that order though. In the past, we have gotten street titles and then set to installing the parts once we knew we had the hard part out of the way. With the right title office, it isn't hard at all. Just don't be stupid and get the street title and then ride around without things like the plate, tail light, headlight, brakelight...

Lots of options for putting lights on...

Mirror and two brake light switches and horn and high beam... kind of like playing the odds vs. how simple do you want to keep it. Technically, you are illegal as soon as you don't have working turn signals - When I got pulled over on my 300 with none of those things, I just got a warning because he couldn't read my plate from behind due to the angle of the mount (factory KTM EXC tail light / fender). He didn't even ask about any of the other stuff.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:02 PM   #44163
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Technically, you are illegal as soon as you don't have working turn signals
It has been my understanding that in Ohio, hand signals are perfectly legal; signal lights are optional.

And you reminded me about the horn! Carrie, which do you prefer:



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Old 02-06-2012, 03:05 PM   #44164
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:18 PM   #44165
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Lighted turn signals are required after mid 60-70's. I'll see if i can dredge up the code. Been down this road before with the old Dr. I might have some old gs and Dr electrical parts laying around if its needed.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:27 PM   #44166
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Lighted turn signals are required after mid 60-70's. I'll see if i can dredge up the code. Been down this road before with the old Dr. I might have some old gs and Dr electrical parts laying around if its needed.
After 1968.

The problem is there is a ton of misinformation about what is legally required equipment.

On top of that, there is misunderstanding about what you can "get away with".

Not to sound like a know it all, but I've converted 3 bikes to a street title and I enforce these laws on a daily basis.

Put a headlight, brake light, taillight on, register it, and everything else is unecessary for the riding you are going to do.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:48 PM   #44167
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You are going to get the stink-eye from "the man" no matter what.
You are riding what appears to be a dirtbike!

Make an attempt to at least look legal....no license plate mounted to your chest protector, no cute mounting it sidways.

Ride normal, and do not look nervous, you belong on the road, have confidence and act like it.

Obey the laws and ride with the right gear and you will be pretty much left alone. Ride like an ass and without gear & you might get stopped for a quick look over.

One final thought....always ride with at least one person that is slower than you.....if the shit hits the fan you do not have to outrun the police, you just have to outrun the slowest person in your group.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:53 PM   #44168
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Umm. ... Meefzah is 'the man'.
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Old 02-06-2012, 03:54 PM   #44169
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It has been my understanding that in Ohio, hand signals are perfectly legal; signal lights are optional.

And you reminded me about the horn! Carrie, which do you prefer:



or




You beat me to it!!! I was going to post a pic of the bell. it's got to be a bell.
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:00 PM   #44170
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Umm. ... Meefzah is 'the man'.
Story of my life, at work especially. No one listens to the answers for the questions they ask.
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:01 PM   #44171
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Ok before I get flamed or you want to spend an hour looking through Ohio revised code... here's the dmv's bulletin on scooters. Same requirements as a bike IIRC.

http://bmv.ohio.gov/motor_scooters.stm

FWIW, you can get away with anything until you're caught,then ignorance isn't an excuse in a courtroom. Most cops are nice guys and will "let it slide", but the law is the law. You might get a ticket for missing this or that, or you might not. Ultimately what GCMK does or doesn't do is up to her. Most laws I think are unneeded or a little repressive. But thats just me.
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:02 PM   #44172
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Story of my life, at work especially. No one listens to the answers for the questions they ask.
I'm listening!
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:08 PM   #44173
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I'm listening!
Then hear this:

To be 100% legal:

-headlight w/ low and high beam
-taillight
-brakelight
-turn signals
-speedometer
-horn
-mirror
-license plate
-license plate light
-rear red reflectors
-keyed ignition

To be legal enough and get the job done in such a manner that no one will mess with you:

-headlight with one beam
-taillight
-brakelight
-license plate

Be advised that you will have to swear in a notarized affidavit that you have permanently made all the modifications listed in my table 1, above; in order to get the bike plated.

Focker OUT!
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:13 PM   #44174
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Umm. ... Meefzah is 'the man'.

This I know
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Old 02-06-2012, 04:17 PM   #44175
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Guess what all these Enduro riders are being busted for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LnJvzXetNo

Lights? NO
Horn? NO
Break lights? NO



No Plates or Plates off other bikes and expired registrations?
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