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Old 04-19-2012, 07:14 AM   #47536
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Anybody have any suggestions for a good gravel/light-duty off-road dual-sport that can haul my fat butt (6'4" 300#) around in reasonable comfort? I currently have a KTM 690 Enduro R that I used last year for about everything from rough off-road to weekend cruising. This winter I picked up a KTM450MXC that I will be using for rougher duty and would like something a little more street oriented than the 690 for general dual-sport riding. I am thinking a BMW 800/650gs may be the ticket but am interested in other opinions from people with more knowledge and experience in such matters. For example are there other similar bikes I should be considering?

Also, in order to get this bike I'm going to have to thin the herd a little and thinking about selling/trading the 690 (2009 with lots of extras), a 2006 KTM 525 XC (not currently "street" legal but has Ohio MC title) and possibly a 2002 KLR650, unless I respring it for my dual-sport bike. All are ready to ride and I physically have clear Ohio titles (in my name) in my possession. PM me if interested in dealing...
I would like to try your 690se. As for what your looking for, I think you're in the same boat as me. Everything is too small, or to heavy. I mean between the GS, KLR, 690se and new 450 you've got one hell of a range of machines. Don't know what other bike is going to fill a niche that those bikes don't. At this point you've entered the "modification zone". Take the bike that most closely meets your desired goal and start modifying it.
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Old 04-19-2012, 08:06 AM   #47537
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I would like to try your 690se. As for what your looking for, I think you're in the same boat as me. Everything is too small, or to heavy. I mean between the GS, KLR, 690se and new 450 you've got one hell of a range of machines. Don't know what other bike is going to fill a niche that those bikes don't. At this point you've entered the "modification zone". Take the bike that most closely meets your desired goal and start modifying it.
Thank you for reminding me, a large aftermarket is necessary for the new bike. What else would I spend my time doing if not ordering and installing farkles. I guess my thought dejour is that I would like to be down to 3 bikes. The GS is great road/travel bike and the 450 is great off-road so I would like something in between. Comfortable on the road and still able to handle some light off-road duties. The 690 is great but leans more toward the off-road side of things and fiscally know that I should just order some new springs for the KLR and be done with it. But well, the KLR is just not that "sexy". There I said it and feel much better now.
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Old 04-19-2012, 08:30 AM   #47538
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The 690 is great but leans more toward the off-road side of things and fiscally know that I should just order some new springs for the KLR and be done with it. But well, the KLR is just not that "sexy". There I said it and feel much better now.
Different tires and an aftermarket fairing and the 690 would be more 50-50.

KLR, sexy? What? You wanna go pick up meth heads in town now?
That old KLR is as middle of the road as it gets. I think any sexier and you get a Wee Strom or Versy. Any uglier and your on a DR650.

Off to get the teeth cleaned, I'll call you later tonight.
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Old 04-19-2012, 08:42 AM   #47539
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... would like something a little more street oriented than the 690 for general dual-sport riding. I am thinking a BMW 800/650gs may be the ticket...

Neither of those BMW's are for general dual sport riding, pot holed gravel roads maybe. Maybe you could find a fool to trade you that 690 for a well used 640Adv even up?
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Old 04-19-2012, 08:47 AM   #47540
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Neither of those BMW's are for general dual sport riding, pot holed gravel roads maybe. Maybe you could find a fool to trade you that 690 for a well used 640Adv even up?
I bet I know just the fool...
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:04 AM   #47541
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Neither of those BMW's are for general dual sport riding, pot holed gravel roads maybe.
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:06 AM   #47542
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Ahem.
Oops, I ahemed the wrong post.

Edit ... nevermind ... that was the right post.
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:16 AM   #47543
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:45 AM   #47544
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Oops, I ahemed the wrong post.

Edit ... nevermind ... that was the right post.
Neither is my 950 but then again, some of us never play by the rules.
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:46 AM   #47545
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I bet I know just the fool...
HEY! I resemble that remark !

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Old 04-19-2012, 10:51 AM   #47546
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BTW, if you have any non street legal dirt bikes that you are getting an Ohio APV/OHM registration for, you SHOULD be receiving 2 stickers from now on. If anyone has a BMV that is insisting you only get 1 sticker, please let me know.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:03 AM   #47547
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Neither of those BMW's are for general dual sport riding, pot holed gravel roads maybe. Maybe you could find a fool to trade you that 690 for a well used 640Adv even up?
Don't laugh, but I was considering looking for a 640Adv to replace the 690, just not so well used as yours. Then figured that I am getting older and maybe something with a little lower seat height would be preferred.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:17 AM   #47548
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Neither of those BMW's are for general dual sport riding, pot holed gravel roads maybe. Maybe you could find a fool to trade you that 690 for a well used 640Adv even up?
Would the same be true of the KTM 950/990 Adventure, anyone take these beasts off the blacktop and gravel? How would it compare to the BMW 800/650GS family? I don't really spend any time at the dealers or looking at the magazines so is there anything else out there other than the standard KLR/DR?
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:38 AM   #47549
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Would the same be true of the KTM 950/990 Adventure, anyone take these beasts off the blacktop and gravel?

Mines been so far off the beaten path I didn't think I'd get it back but it always does. I ride it like a heavy dirt bike and it goes almost anywhere I point it.

If you're worried about the seat height on a 640, why a 950? I think both of mine are comparable on seat heights thoug the newer 990's are a bit lower.



Muddy, what's on the 2nd sticker, the county number?
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:43 AM   #47550
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Muddy, what's on the 2nd sticker, the county number?
I believe one is registration and one is permit. Thus street legal bikes can buy just the permit (1 sticker) since the bike is already registered (plated) and still be paying to support the trails.
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