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Old 05-07-2012, 06:05 PM   #48451
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Or we could talk about helmets and motorcycling!
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:06 PM   #48452
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PLEASE keep me in the loop in this regard! I'll be able to manage Tar Hallow trips Monday, Wednesday, and/or Thursday evenings once you get it plated; during the summer if you get off work at 5, we could make it down there with a couple hours of daylight left pretty easy; I get off around 3 or 4 Mondays and Wednesdays.

A more local spot with some bumps/hills/banked curves/obstacles would be exceptional. Preferably legal, but simply out of sight would work for me. My 2 known spots are fun, but they're slightly visible from somewhat busy roads, and I wouldn't feel comfortable hanging out there for any more than 10-15 minutes at a time.
I don't think I've ridden with either of you, but I'd be up for riding in the evenings. I live over the ridge from Tar Hollow, so if either of you are bringing bikes via trailer, you are more than welcome to park here at the house. I also have a 5+ mile single track loop (some parts are A level, but can be skipped), with a cool 1 mile loop over next to Salt Creek that is fun to do laps on. Plus,several of the old township roads that are included in a lot of the Tar Hollow rides are pretty close to the house.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:07 PM   #48453
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Or we could talk about helmets and motorcycling!
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:08 PM   #48454
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4511.55. Operating bicycles and motorcycles on roadway.
(A) Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as near to the right side of the roadway as practicable obeying all traffic rules applicable to vehicles and exercising due care when passing a standing vehicle or one proceeding in the same direction.

(B) Persons riding bicycles or motorcycles upon a roadway shall ride not more than two abreast in a single lane, except on paths or parts of roadways set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles or motorcycles.

(C) This section does not require a person operating a bicycle to ride at the edge of the roadway when it is unreasonable or unsafe to do so. Conditions that may require riding away from the edge of the roadway include when necessary to avoid fixed or moving objects, parked or moving vehicles, surface hazards, or if it otherwise is unsafe or impracticable to do so, including if the lane is too narrow for the bicycle and an overtaking vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.
Comment: Section 4511.55(A) is very often misquoted to say that cyclists are required to ride as near as possible to the curb. The new paragraph (C) should help reduce this confusion. There are many conditions where it is much safer to ride near the middle of the lane. It is not practicable (practice-able) to ride on the far right when passing or turning left; or when avoiding objects, parked cars, moving vehicles, pedestrians, animals, surface or other hazards; or when the travel lane is too narrow for a bicycle and another vehicle to pass safely side by side within the lane.
Many motorists are reluctant to cross a lane line when passing a bicycle. A cyclist who "hugs the curb" unintentionally invites motorists to pass with unsafe clearance. Riding near the middle of a narrow lane helps overtaking motorists realize that they must must use the next lane to pass.
The real purpose of this law is to prevent unnecessary delay to faster traffic. Since the law cannot require unsafe operation, the phrase as close as practicable is highly flexible, varying widely according to conditions. Positions well away from the edge of the road can be in compliance. Section 4511.55(B) allows riding two abreast. However, cyclists should avoid unnecessary delay to other traffic. Please be courteous and "single up" when other drivers wish to pass if such passing is safe and reasonable. There is no violation if any of the following apply: (1) If there is no traffic being delayed; (2) If the cyclists are traveling as fast as other traffic; (3) If traffic can reasonably pass by using another lane; (4) If the lane is too narrow or it is otherwise unsafe for passing.
So, am I wrong? I read this to mean if traffic is being hindered move over and share the road. Nothing here says, "Make others cross a double yellow or ride abreast to block others you don't want passing you.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:08 PM   #48455
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2 of 2!

Perry state forest ride this Thursday!!! So far Alan, Goreman, and myself are in I believe. Come play in the stinky-ass mud with us!
Im in!!!
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:11 PM   #48456
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:13 PM   #48457
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Real quick plug for RAM mounts.

They have a lifetime warranty on their products, which to a lot of companies means "fuck you".

Not RAM, baby. I have a cradle for a GPS that has seen use on my street and dirt bike for about 4, maybe 5 years, now. I've whacked countless trees with it, rolled down hills, and generally mistreated it.

It finally cracked, though it does still work.

I looked at their website, and they ask for nothing more than a digital photo of the broken part, and $2.00 shipping. They don't even want the broken part back.

I emailed them earlier, they answered promptly, and are sending a new unit out right away.

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Old 05-07-2012, 06:13 PM   #48458
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I'd read what you say dragoon if you'd change that avatar. I find it very distracting. lol Have you seen Palin's sex tape?


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Old 05-07-2012, 06:18 PM   #48459
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Real quick plug for RAM mounts.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:19 PM   #48460
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So, am I wrong? I read this to mean if traffic is being hindered move over and share the road. Nothing here says, "Make others cross a double yellow or ride abreast to block others you don't want passing you.

Use the force, Luke! Your eyes are not open. Read! Further! Duh!
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:19 PM   #48461
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:21 PM   #48462
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Use the force, Luke! Your eyes are not open. Read! Further! Duh!
However, cyclists should avoid unnecessary delay to other traffic. Please be courteous and "single up" when other drivers wish to pass if such passing is safe and reasonable.

What else needs to be said?
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:25 PM   #48463
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4511.55. Operating bicycles and motorcycles on roadway.
(A) Every person operating a bicycle upon a roadway shall ride as near to the right side of the roadway as practicable obeying all traffic rules applicable to vehicles and exercising due care when passing a standing vehicle or one proceeding in the same direction.

(B) Persons riding bicycles or motorcycles upon a roadway shall ride not more than two abreast in a single lane, except on paths or parts of roadways set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles or motorcycles.

(C) This section does not require a person operating a bicycle to ride at the edge of the roadway when it is unreasonable or unsafe to do so. Conditions that may require riding away from the edge of the roadway include when necessary to avoid fixed or moving objects, parked or moving vehicles, surface hazards, or if it otherwise is unsafe or impracticable to do so, including if the lane is too narrow for the bicycle and an overtaking vehicle to travel safely side by side within the lane.
Comment: Section 4511.55(A) is very often misquoted to say that cyclists are required to ride as near as possible to the curb. The new paragraph (C) should help reduce this confusion. There are many conditions where it is much safer to ride near the middle of the lane. It is not practicable (practice-able) to ride on the far right when passing or turning left; or when avoiding objects, parked cars, moving vehicles, pedestrians, animals, surface or other hazards; or when the travel lane is too narrow for a bicycle and another vehicle to pass safely side by side within the lane.
Many motorists are reluctant to cross a lane line when passing a bicycle. A cyclist who "hugs the curb" unintentionally invites motorists to pass with unsafe clearance. Riding near the middle of a narrow lane helps overtaking motorists realize that they must must use the next lane to pass.
The real purpose of this law is to prevent unnecessary delay to faster traffic. Since the law cannot require unsafe operation, the phrase as close as practicable is highly flexible, varying widely according to conditions. Positions well away from the edge of the road can be in compliance. Section 4511.55(B) allows riding two abreast. However, cyclists should avoid unnecessary delay to other traffic. Please be courteous and "single up" when other drivers wish to pass if such passing is safe and reasonable. There is no violation if any of the following apply: (1) If there is no traffic being delayed; (2) If the cyclists are traveling as fast as other traffic; (3) If traffic can reasonably pass by using another lane; (4) If the lane is too narrow or it is otherwise unsafe for passing.

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Old 05-07-2012, 06:26 PM   #48464
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2 of 2!
Perry state forest ride this Thursday!!! So far Alan, Goreman, and myself are in I believe. Come play in the stinky-ass mud with us!
What time?
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:27 PM   #48465
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What else needs to be said?
You could tell them to use bike paths since they are being built everywhere...and ask how they feel when pedestrians keep slowing them down or won't get out of their way? ;)
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