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Old 11-06-2012, 06:15 PM   #54151
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I guess I've been away from ktmtalk too much. I missed that they made the 350 an EXC and fuel injected. That makes it a strong contender against the WRR with more of an off road performance leaning. Still, the WRR is a good bike for the buck despite the extra 50 lbs.
The Beta 400RR is a hell of a dual sport option too, not nearly as common as the KTM but on paper a great "do all" bike. It's a 349cc, 250lb 6-speed with a good suspension. Street price is similar to the KTM. The only downside is the lack of dealer network, but Iron Pony is carrying Beta and they're very popular in other countries so aftermarket and parts are out there.

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Old 11-06-2012, 06:47 PM   #54152
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Too bad KTM decided not to make the 690 Adventure:

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...looking at the harness and reg/rec it looks like KTM has finally abandoned their ridiculous split AC/DC system.

....the KTM shop is 15 and I have to drive by it at least once a week. (WTF there isn't even a Honda shop in Yo. anymore.)

...The guys there treat me great-know me by name, nice discount... I also got a great deal on a 2013 in August, I think because it is an EXC and they didn't want to get stuck with it. One more thing... it's a 350!

Hey Pete, my 250 has that split system, I have the lights on AC and just the starter is on DC. BMoto54 lives up on the N side of Yo and is in the same situation as you are and said Cleveland (where he works) is even worse for dealers. I'm guessing you are dealing with Pointview? I rode over there a couple weeks ago to get brake pads and a front sprocket for the 950, nice guys, good deals. BMoto uses them also I believe. I remember when that place was a dance hall.



For those who care, Crow Canyon will be privatized for next year and will be closed to the general public.
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:52 PM   #54153
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"For those who care, Crow Canyon will be privatized for next year and will be closed to the general public"

Yep, private club and fortunately, one of my co workers who still likes me (he doesn't know me very well ) is part of the management structure.
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:32 PM   #54154
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mgorman sez:

"For those who care, Crow Canyon will be privatized for next year and will be closed to the general public"

Yep, private club and fortunately, one of my co workers who still likes me (he doesn't know me very well ) is part of the management structure.
Apparently they are selling, or will be selling quite shortly, memberships. They are around $300 a year though, which is more than I care to spend. Actually, Crow is pretty decent, but I'd have no interest in a membeship even if they were $100 / year, and I live within sight of the place.

They are moving their "pro shop" to Philly, too; which kind of sucks. I liked running up the road to grab something I needed.
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:33 PM   #54155
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Apparently they are selling, or will be selling quite shortly, memberships. They are around $300 a year though, which is more than I care to spend. Actually, Crow is pretty decent, but I'd have no interest in a membeship even if they were $100 / year, and I live within sight of the place.

They are moving their "pro shop" to Philly, too; which kind of sucks. I liked running up the road to grab something I needed.
Yeah you would, hell you spent $45 to be a member of the shittiest gun range in Ohio.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:02 AM   #54156
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"Actually, Crow is pretty decent, but I'd have no interest in a membeship even if they were $100 / year, and I live within sight of the place."

Yea, but the way I understand it, the members can bring a guest. And we both know one of the members of the management team....... But for most of my off road riding, I just go up behind the house

The guys who run the shop wanted to grow....so the "pro shop" needed to move on up.....sure is convenient for me on the way home
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:08 AM   #54157
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I'll decide when I find out what they plan to do with the mx track.
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:09 AM   #54158
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As the owner of a 2013 KTM 350 EXC-F I'll jump in here.... it's a 350!
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The Beta 400RR is a hell of a dual sport option too...
I'll be watching for used ones in a couple years. I have heard that the FI KTM's are the cat's ass.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:54 AM   #54159
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Yeah you would, hell you spent $45 to be a member of the shittiest gun range in Ohio.
Only because they caught me there shooting and I was compelled to join on the spot.

Remember, I tried to tell the guy I was your life partner and was covered under your membership?
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:01 AM   #54160
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Only because they caught me there shooting and I was compelled to join on the spot.

Remember, I tried to tell the guy I was your life partner and was covered under your membership?
That was some funny shit! That old man did a double take then kept right on insisting for a membership.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:10 AM   #54161
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(The WR250R) won't get upset with you for riding pavement, you'll just wear the tires, chain and sprockets a bit more.
As a noob, this seems counterintuitive. I would have thought off road riding would cause more wear due to the abrasiveness of sand, dirt, rocks, etc.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:43 AM   #54162
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As a noob, this seems counterintuitive. I would have thought off road riding would cause more wear due to the abrasiveness of sand, dirt, rocks, etc.
Yes and well, sort of yes - If you are only using it on the street and keeping it lubed, it may or may not outlast the same chain drive used in the dirt. It will wear faster than the chain drive on a bike with a cush drive hub and the harder you accelerate on the street, the shorter the chain and sprocket life.

If you are using the bike as a dual sport, you probably aren't cleaning the chain before you leave the trail and get on the road. In that case, you are getting the abrasive wear, plus the higher cyclic loading from a sprocket that is bolted straight to the hub.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:09 AM   #54163
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As a noob, this seems counterintuitive. I would have thought off road riding would cause more wear due to the abrasiveness of sand, dirt, rocks, etc.
I think it's a mileage thing; Road riding often can lead to drastically more mileage in the same amount of time. A day off-road may consist of trailering to the trails, then ride for several hours and only accumulate 40 miles, then trailer home. Where as a day on pavement could easily be 300+ miles (or double that!).
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:40 AM   #54164
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Some roadies think o-ring chains need no lube but they do. The outer rollers aren't sealed and wear from the inside giving the illusion of stretching. Only the 2 inner pins that link the plates are sealed from the elements.

The other issue is the tire gripping a solid surface transmitting more stress through the chain. Cush drives in the clutch and hub help alleviate this.

HP doesn't help either. My 950 eats chains much faster than the other 3. The last chain had 4 missing rollers and a selection of cracked rollers.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:16 PM   #54165
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Barkbusters make good cane holders. Rode about 60 miles today took all the fun roads to Danville to get gas. I am still a little gun shy around blind corners and blind hills. Getting on and off the bike sucks. Up shifting is a little rough also. Sure is good to get out and ride.
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