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Old 09-17-2008, 06:38 PM   #301
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This is the other mount, shown to illustrate the original shape. I bent it with pliars.



Now you can see it is a tight fit with the beak installed. But it is clean. I added some tie straps to secure the ballast to the mount, and firm it in place as well.

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Hey guys appreciate sharing the info mucho amigos...
do these brackets come w/ the VME kit?
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:43 PM   #302
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Hey guys appreciate sharing the info mucho amigos...
do these brackets come w/ the VME kit?
They did with mine!

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Old 09-19-2008, 09:21 PM   #303
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has anyone asked this question?

I've researched some of the HID distributors. Some of them claim that a significant factor with HID performance is length of the bulb. According the them, it is important to have the light-producing element placed correctly in front of the reflector to ensure the correct light diffusion characteristics. These distributors claim the elements in their HID bulbs are identically positioned to the filaments in halogens, and therefore take full advantage of the reflector's design. Other HID kits, they argue, do not place the element at the proper distance from the reflector, and therefore waste a lot of light. The theory makes sense to me.

Some posters in this thread stated they did not achieve expected results from an HID upgrade--could it be because they installed a kit with a less-carefully-placed element, and therefore did not take full advantage of the reflector design?

The only way to know would be to compare one of the kits that claim proper bulb design with one of the cheaper kits using long bulbs. Has anyone ever made such a comparison?
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Old 09-20-2008, 10:14 AM   #304
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Update on my saga.

I got the H1 bulbs yesterday and it is obvious that these will be much esasier to install than the H4 Dual Beam bulbs. The bulb is even configured like an H1 bulb so it will plug right into where the halogen bulb went (with some minor filing on the hole).

When they sent the bulbs they didn't send the wiring harness for this kit. I had to order that separately too. That was $15.00 shipped. I should have that Monday or Tuesday.

I checked into shipping the Dual Beam bulbs back to China. 100 bucks. Anyone want some surplus Dual Beam bulbs???

The moral of the story is: order the right parts and save some money. The single beam kit is $48.00 plus shipping from VVME.com. The dual beam kit is around $70.00. By the time I get done ordering parts piece meal I will have about $150.00 in the things.
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Old 09-20-2008, 07:22 PM   #305
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Xennon Rider and Joseph Chang get major from me. Having intermittent issues with the slim ballast, he sent 2 types of the regular ballasts overnight and said keep the one that works and send the other 2 back. No questions, no charges, just took care of it. I am now up and running (brightly I might add).

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Old 09-21-2008, 05:17 PM   #306
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Liked the H7's on HID so much I jusr popped some H3's from VVME into my PIAA 910's.

Most of my riding is at night, and I finally feel that I have adequate light.

Thanks to JVB et al for the tip.
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:02 AM   #307
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I've researched some of the HID distributors. Some of them claim that a significant factor with HID performance is length of the bulb. According the them, it is important to have the light-producing element placed correctly in front of the reflector to ensure the correct light diffusion characteristics. These distributors claim the elements in their HID bulbs are identically positioned to the filaments in halogens, and therefore take full advantage of the reflector's design. Other HID kits, they argue, do not place the element at the proper distance from the reflector, and therefore waste a lot of light. The theory makes sense to me.

Some posters in this thread stated they did not achieve expected results from an HID upgrade--could it be because they installed a kit with a less-carefully-placed element, and therefore did not take full advantage of the reflector design?

The only way to know would be to compare one of the kits that claim proper bulb design with one of the cheaper kits using long bulbs. Has anyone ever made such a comparison?
IIRC most of the kits are made by the same company in China, but you may have a point about inconsistant bulb length. I am willing to pull mine and measure it, if others are too. Mine works great, so maybe help establish a basline?

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Old 09-22-2008, 08:33 AM   #308
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IIRC most of the kits are made by the same company in China, but you may have a point about inconsistant bulb length. I am willing to pull mine and measure it, if others are too. Mine works great, so maybe help establish a basline?

Drif10

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It would be interesting to see if the people that have less-than-stellar HID results have bulbs that place the "illumination" in the wrong place.

I guess the first task would be to standardize the measuring. I have never seen an HID except in pictures. Can it be measured from a consistent location on the base to the point where light is generated?
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:41 AM   #309
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It would be interesting to see if the people that have less-than-stellar HID results have bulbs that place the "illumination" in the wrong place.

I guess the first task would be to standardize the measuring. I have never seen an HID except in pictures. Can it be measured from a consistent location on the base to the point where light is generated?
I can't access my Photobucket from work so I cant post a picture, but it should be easy to measure the base to the tip, and to check the orientation of the "filiment" to the locator tab.

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I installed mine last night. Easy as pie.

I'll do a write-up as soon as I get the battery charged on the camera so that I can unload my pics.
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:15 AM   #311
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Liked the H7's on HID so much I jusr popped some H3's from VVME into my PIAA 910's.

Most of my riding is at night, and I finally feel that I have adequate light.

Thanks to JVB et al for the tip.
amigo,
did it improve the 910's a lot?
got pics of the guts of the conversion? don't let the camera hit you on the head gracias...
waiting to recieve my H7's, gonna put my 910's on the GS anyways.
On my evening/night commute I need a lot of lights for the twisties, too.
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Old 09-23-2008, 04:53 PM   #312
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amigo,
did it improve the 910's a lot?
got pics of the guts of the conversion? don't let the camera hit you on the head gracias...
waiting to recieve my H7's, gonna put my 910's on the GS anyways.
On my evening/night commute I need a lot of lights for the twisties, too.
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What a difference! Much better definition at the usual distance, plus I'd say at least a 40% improvement in range.

Just made a light bar for them today. didn't like how I had them mounted before. Took a break from mounting them for supper and saw your post.

Here's a couple of pics:







I had to cut the wires to fit them through the housing, and then re-solder them. Otherwise, plug and play. Mine is an 07 GSA, so you can't hide the ballasts like JVB showed on his Sport. I have mine attached to the upper crash bar.


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Old 09-23-2008, 05:00 PM   #313
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What a difference! Much better definition at the usual distance, plus I'd say at least a 40% improvement in range.

Just made a light bar for them today. didn't like how I had them mounted before. Took a break from mounting them for supper and saw your post.

I had to cut the wires to fit them through the housing, and then re-solder them. Otherwise, plug and play. Mine is an 07 GSA, so you can't hide the ballasts like JVB showed on his Sport. I have mine attached to the upper crash bar.


Say hi to the Sherriff for me.
Thanks mang...
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Old 09-25-2008, 12:42 PM   #314
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another +1 for Joseph at xenonrider.com. Yes, it costs more than the other, but I got the unit in a day, and after a brief email exchange will have a slim ballast swapped by tomorrow. Excellent service and communication...imho worth the $ but ymmv.
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Old 09-27-2008, 07:37 PM   #315
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it's always something...

So I get a 24mm hole drilled per the instructions, go to thread the harness through and it turns out that the main plug is actually about 28mm wide. There are two tabs for a wire retainer and needless to say, 28mm don't go into 24mm (though there might be a porn plot there).

Anyone had this issue?
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