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Old 12-03-2007, 09:08 AM   #16
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Thanks everyone for all your great information!!!! I have been reading so much that it's all kind of a blur, but in time I will get all the information properly filed in my brain. That's why hearing form you guys is so helpful!

Yeah, the Willamette (rhymes with damn it) valley is in Western Oregon. Right now we are having one hell of a storm, and the waves on the Pacific have been measured at 70 feet. Roads closed and power out throughout the area.
The Missus and I are headed down to Manzanita area for 3 days at Christmas to do some storm watching.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:27 AM   #17
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The Missus and I are headed down to Manzanita area for 3 days at Christmas to do some storm watching.
That's our favorite place to visit - watch out for those sneaker waves!
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:33 AM   #18
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The Oregon Guzzi club, a great place to start.

http://www.orguzzi.org/

MamaGuzzi is good people, I've known her for years.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:56 AM   #19
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Quite a variety on fleabay right now.

http://motors.listings.ebay.com/Moto...istingItemList

If I was to get a cruiser style bike I'd go for the Stone or Jackal. Most amount of ground clearance I've seen on a cruiser. You can actually lean them over in the corners. A couple of Quotas on there as well.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:19 AM   #20
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I am heavy, weighing in at 250 with gear so prolly need to be looking at fairly strong pullers, engine wise.
More like a svelte and nubile 198 without gear and in those pink assless chaps.

Let me know if you find a guzzi out of state--I'll be happy to fly and ride it back for you if you pay the airfare.

I've got the guzzi lust too and nearly got a quota when I sold the Classic. Thank god I dont have a garage.
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Old 12-03-2007, 10:36 AM   #21
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I've been riding and restoring Guzzis for about 20 years, if you are in PDX, give me a call. I can probably answer specific questions you might have.
I have a friend who is selling a very choice '74 LAPD Eldorado for $3500 if that is the type of bike you are looking for. That's a pretty good deal anymore...
The Oregon Guzzi club people are very nice, (though I haven't been to one of their gatherings in years). Local clubs can often be a good place to inquire about bikes for sale, or to learn about ownership.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:31 AM   #22
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Rather than cluttering up this thread with thank you's I am extending a thanks for all past and future information! You guys are great!*

*(Soy Anarchisto excepted )
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:39 AM   #23
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The Oregon Guzzi club, a great place to start.

http://www.orguzzi.org/

MamaGuzzi is good people, I've known her for years.
Great group of folks... You are not talking about Gerri with that Mama Guzzi thing are you..? Does she know you are calling her that...? ?

Say Hi to Gerri and Gary for me...
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:12 PM   #24
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You have to watch some of the old ones. Guzzi put chrome bores in a lot of their bikes in the 70's. Those bores are now flaking and pitting and need to be replace. Many have already but when I was looking for mine, I found 3 that had not be replaced yet. So you are looking at 800+ for that job if you do it yourself, new nikasil jugs etc. Plus I've heard that the replacement jugs are hard to come by right now, stock seems to be low. Not that they are becoming obsolete, just hard to get right now.
is there a way to check if the cyls have been replaced?
or is the way to check, asking?
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:53 PM   #25
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The 850 jugs may not be obsolete but they are not available. All suppliers are sold out. Only Cycle Garden is selling the 1000cc big bore kits that I know of, tho you can many times resleeve the cylinders - if - you can get pistons!
Amen to that. Took me and my mechanic 9 months of global searching to get an 850 kit for my Le Mans. Apparently Gilardoni have stopped making them because BMW is using all of their production capacity.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:04 PM   #26
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is there a way to check if the cyls have been replaced?
or is the way to check, asking?
Well, you can pull the oil pan and look up into the cyls from the bottom. in the case of my Lemans I used a magnet to make sure it had iron liners. The aftermarket kits are usually nikasil so the magnet won't help you. but you can inspect the bores from the bottom and see their condition. i don't know of a way to check from the outside.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:47 PM   #27
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The chrome bores tend to blister and pit at the top of the bores, so short of removing heads, there isn't a good way to check condition.
That said; the oil pan inspection method serves well, in that you should see indication of failed chrome in the sump screen as small metal flakes.

There are a handful of companies in the US that now offer Nigusil plating for cylinder linings. I'd contact Mike Rich Motorsports about this.

As far as cylinder markings go, they can vary, or be non-existent.
Liners will look dull grayish if chrome, steely if Iron, and glassy/shiny if Nickasil. Iron and Nickasil may show hone hatch lines, chrome will not.
Maybe that helps... maybe not.

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Old 12-06-2007, 06:06 PM   #28
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There are a handful of companies in the US that now offer Nigusil plating for cylinder linings. I'd contact Mike Rich Motorsports about this.
theres actually 2 ambassadors near me that are making me think twice. I thought there was a drought on the gilardoni nikasil sleeves..?
what else is availible? i found cyclegarden, they offer a big bore kit, Mahle pistons and Chrome Vanadium sleeves for $775. ???
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Old 12-06-2007, 06:53 PM   #29
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Uh, Oh................

Just pulled the trigger on a 1972 Eldorado.

Been sitting for many years.

Thanks for all the resources. Think I'll need 'em.
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Old 12-06-2007, 07:07 PM   #30
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lets see it deerslayer.

im looking at a similiar condition ambassador. so me a favor and stay one step ahead of me so I can learn from your mistakes.
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