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Old 12-06-2007, 09:19 PM   #31
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Mine (Cycle Garden big bore kit) is being installed this week.

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theres actually 2 ambassadors near me that are making me think twice. I thought there was a drought on the gilardoni nikasil sleeves..?
what else is availible? i found cyclegarden, they offer a big bore kit, Mahle pistons and Chrome Vanadium sleeves for $775. ???
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Old 12-07-2007, 04:11 AM   #32
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lets see it deerslayer.
..... and stay one step ahead of me so I can learn from your mistakes.


I'll get a pic or two up in the next week or so.

Right now she's a sad sight of neglect.
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:09 AM   #33
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Mine (Cycle Garden big bore kit) is being installed this week.
do you know when you expect it back darmah? its not a six month process I hope.... did you just mail them your old juggs?
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:13 AM   #34
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I'll get a pic or two up in the next week or so.

Right now she's a sad sight of neglect.

I'd really appreciate it slayr, thanks!

Can anyone link me to a site with a good chrono of those years, 69-75 I think? I figured out a couple points, like the front brake to date it. But looking at the insturment cluster it gets confusing, i've seen 69 ambos w/ just a speedo, then from there on it seems like some ambos/eldos have tachs and some dont, even of the same year. or is it only the police spec just has that massive cluster??

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Old 12-07-2007, 07:52 AM   #35
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It will be done in a week. They didn't ask for the old jugs. At least not yet. The weather might conspire to slow the test ride tho.


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do you know when you expect it back darmah? its not a six month process I hope.... did you just mail them your old juggs?
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Old 12-07-2007, 09:11 AM   #36
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thanks darmah.

theres a "complete, not run in years" 72 ambassador near me. whats a decent price, ad says $2k, but that seems a bit high.

what to look for? theres not a kick right? how do I check if the motor is seized?
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Old 12-07-2007, 09:40 AM   #37
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is there a way to check if the cyls have been replaced?
or is the way to check, asking?
Beg/borrow/steal a borescope & peek in through the spark plug holes?
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Old 12-07-2007, 11:35 AM   #38
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theres actually 2 ambassadors near me that are making me think twice. I thought there was a drought on the gilardoni nikasil sleeves..?
what else is availible? i found cyclegarden, they offer a big bore kit, Mahle pistons and Chrome Vanadium sleeves for $775. ???
there are a couple of companies that will take your old jugs and pistons and
new rings and re-nikasil the jugs. Cost is similar to the gilardoni option, and turnaround time can be pretty fast.

I'm running vw-sourced iron liners and venolia pistons on my ambassador. The jugs and pistons from the wife's eldo are currently out getting the nikasil treatment.

I'd be leery of running a big bore kit in an ambo block. The ambo/eldo displacement difference (750 vs 850) is from a longer crank throw, but the big bore kits usually require milling either the block or the outside of the jugs to accept the larger bore. Eldo blocks have more external gusseting and can take more milling than the ambos.

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Old 12-07-2007, 11:57 AM   #39
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Mine were fine.

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there are a couple of companies that will take your old jugs and pistons and
new rings and re-nikasil the jugs. Cost is similar to the gilardoni option, and turnaround time can be pretty fast.

I'm running vw-sourced iron liners and venolia pistons on my ambassador. The jugs and pistons from the wife's eldo are currently out getting the nikasil treatment.

I'd be leery of running a big bore kit in an ambo block. The ambo/eldo displacement difference (750 vs 850) is from a longer crank throw, but the big bore kits usually require milling either the block or the outside of the jugs to accept the larger bore. Eldo blocks have more external gusseting and can take more milling than the ambos.

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Old 12-07-2007, 12:48 PM   #40
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thanks darmah.

theres a "complete, not run in years" 72 ambassador near me. whats a decent price, ad says $2k, but that seems a bit high.

Depends on the cosmetics/ease of restoration. As with any Euro bike
parts can really kick your wallet in the slats. Mine was under $1000.00
but will need much help.



what to look for? theres not a kick right? how do I check if the motor is seized?
Take the front cover off of the engine. Pull the spark plugs. Put a big wrench
(19mm?) on the crank nut and turn clockwise. If it's free you'll know. If not try putting some PB Blaster in each plug hole and let it sit for a few days.
Then repeat the wrench on nut drill. Don't force anything. It should be free at that point. If it was stuck (I've done a few /5 BMW's), a hone job and some new rings are the minimum you'll need to do.
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Old 12-07-2007, 01:24 PM   #41
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Laugh A Ploy???

You know this topic will bring out all the Guzzista on this site.
+1 on the Late loops / early Tonti's.

I'm on my third and only new Guzzi.
First I got a V700 that sat for 20 years, my main bike from "87 'til "94. (Sold it last year)
Then I fixed up a non-running "72 Eldo to run from '94 -'99. Sold it in 2000.
Bought the Jackal in '99 and it's still good at 50,000+ miles.
It DOES have the nasty habit of wearing out brakes and tires tho. . .

The FI on the new one is a bit much for me to work on but the rest is straightforward nuts and bolts.

Good luck, choose a good one.


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Old 12-07-2007, 07:10 PM   #42
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cage free you must be riding with your brakes on.85000+ miles still runnin org pads on 2000 jackal bought in 1999---- fyi 2000 1st yr for jackal model
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Old 12-09-2007, 02:39 PM   #43
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It looks like this may be the place to ask a few questions of my own. Hopefully nobody will take issue with a minor thread hijack. I like the looks of Guzzis, especially the older style police bikes. Generally speaking, I wonder about reliability and also the ability of the charging systems to run modern ameninites like gloves, vests etc.

It sounds like Guzzis are considered at least as reliable as my old boxer. So, what about electrics? Is the charging system up to it or are there upgrades available?
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Old 12-09-2007, 03:17 PM   #44
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Is the charging system up to it or are there upgrades available?
They use the same alternator as the BMW twins. Same issues and upgrades. The Guzzis are very similar in simplicity and longevity to the flat twins. Parts are a bit more rare, but still available. The Italians produce a nicer sound, and have superior brakes and handling to the German machine.

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Old 12-09-2007, 04:07 PM   #45
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They use the same alternator as the BMW twins. Same issues and upgrades. The Guzzis are very similar in simplicity and longevity to the flat twins. Parts are a bit more rare, but still available. The Italians produce a nicer sound, and have superior brakes and handling to the German machine.
I found this place on the web. I don't know anything about them other than their price on starter solenoids is pretty reasonable.

http://www.euromotoelectrics.com/index.html
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