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Old 05-11-2013, 04:50 AM   #7681
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Hmmmm. I will tear into the bike next week and look for anything unusual. At lower speeds, the vibration isn't terrible, but it's noticeable. At higher engine speeds, however, the vibration is quite present. I assumed the BMW would be smoother than the DRZ.

The bike is nearly stock. It still has the carbon canister and stock exhaust. It does stall religiously 20 seconds after I start the engine, but always runs fine otherwise.

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I went from a DRZ to my X-Challenge. I immediately noticed the BMW was more "vibey." But only slightly so and I attributed it to the larger displacement - a 400cc thump vs. a 650 cc thump! That said, I don't consider it a lot of vibration for a thumper and certainly don't feel it is intrusive. Maybe just try softer grips.

As for the stalling, I'd suggest cleaning the Idle Air Controller on the right side of the bike and going through the procedure to reset the TPS. I don't recall the steps involved in resetting the TPS, but it is listed here somewhere, probably in the XChallenge thread.
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Old 05-11-2013, 04:54 AM   #7682
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These are being blown-out at $5500-6000 with abs and I am very tempted. I know of a couple guys who are getting them. 410 pounds, 58 hp, they are a close successor to the XCo. Id go with the Strada shown here with the 19 inch front wheel and abs.

Husky was sold to KTM and they've annouced these models will be discontinued asap.
Have they actually announced they're being discontinued? I know there is loads of speculation, but I hadn't seen anything official.

Regardless, what an unbelievable bargain! If I needed to replace my a XChallenge, I would be hard pressed not to get e Terra. Unlike the X-bikes, it has reasonable range and suspension right out of the box. A bit heavier, but apparently smoother and more powerful. All for under $6000 - incredible. There's going to be a lot of people kicking themselves if they miss the boat.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:33 AM   #7683
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I installed a Booster Plug on mine after goiung with the Akra exhaust and Uni filter but I cannot say the Booster Plug had any noticeable effect on vibration.

The '07s did have some fueling issues, I think (?), but I wouldnt think this is causing the problem. Perhaps.

I've ridden DR's and KLRs and my XCo is way smoother.
The first time I miss installed the boster plug and I was surprise how the bike was vibrating. I think It was running too lean I guess. Then reinstalled It correctly and the engine was running much smoother than stock!
I also noticed that the mileage wad improved!
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:35 PM   #7684
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Have they actually announced they're being discontinued? I know there is loads of speculation, but I hadn't seen anything official.

Regardless, what an unbelievable bargain! If I needed to replace my a XChallenge, I would be hard pressed not to get e Terra. Unlike the X-bikes, it has reasonable range and suspension right out of the box. A bit heavier, but apparently smoother and more powerful. All for under $6000 - incredible. There's going to be a lot of people kicking themselves if they miss the boat.

Yes, the top dog himself, the guy who put the deal together has said they're discontinuing the bikes. Anything with a BMW engine is going to be chopped.

They ARE a helluva deal. More HP than the X series. Weight-wise, they are about the same. I think they publish a total wet weight of about 400-410 pounds. Keep in mind, that includes a good bit more fuel in the much-needed larger gas tank. My XCo with about 4 gallons of gas and a lot of other add-ons weighs in at 400 pounds.

Some of the owners of the Terra have reported high-speed stability issues but that's all Ive heard so far.

If I didnt already have the XCo, Id get a Strada with the switchable ABS and 19 inch wheel. Hell, I may even do it anywway. Nah, I dont think so.
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:00 AM   #7685
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Pescador, where is that Mexican restaurant?
Hey, Very cool area of Florida, hill country. The town is called San Antonio.

32750 Pennsylvania Ave
San Antonio‎ Florida‎ 33576

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Old 05-12-2013, 02:07 PM   #7686
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Hill country ? In Florida ? lol okay

Oh, I see it's down close to Tampa. Ive been through there but I dont remember that town. Ill have to check it out.
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Old 05-14-2013, 03:46 AM   #7687
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I think I have the Xcountry sorted now. Had no rebound on the rear shock, but the I could not move the knob on the bottom. Bought a second hand shock and staintune on flea market. Took the old one off and used a bit more force on the knob and it turned! Rebound damping, amazing. New shock had a longer eye at the bottom so increased seat height by 25mm. Dont scrape the centerstand under normal use now, and it handles much better.I can also pull it up onto the centerstand with it sitting a bit higher with no sag. Staintune is lighter and smaller and it now pulls a lot better. Quiet on a steady throttle, but is a bit noisier when accelerating.Throttle is now like a volume control! Next job is pannier frames so I can go camping. The 800 is starting to get a bit jealous!
Went for a ride on Sunday and the GPS told me that this was a fire access track, couple of hundred sheep in the distance said no! Went another klm after the gate then gave up and looked at the map. Nice day though.


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Old 05-14-2013, 09:42 AM   #7688
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Old 05-17-2013, 07:34 AM   #7689
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And I mean totally worn out! Having said that these 130 Heidi don't have this, so seem to go on forever, in contrast to the wider profiles that a lot of users complain about - to the point of doing this!



This is not me nor my bike - I don't want to go to prison!



Seriously, I don't know what it's like for you but here if you do this kind of thing you're insurance is not only nullified but if you're responsible for causing an injury - let alone death - then it's a criminal case rather than a civil one :(
The law is actually typically nowhere near that extreme. Its quite reasonable actually.

Your insurance is only not valid if they can prove to a court that any modification you did was specifically responsible for causing the accident. i.e. for someone who modified their tyres to work like the ones without the centre ridge, it would (a) have to be an accident caused specifically and only by that tyre and (b) be proven that the removal of the central ridge was specifically the issue that caused the accident, and that (c) - most importantly - the accident would not have happened had the tyre not been modified.

Thats pretty unlikely to be honest. If they could prove that the only reason or primary reason for the accident was the tyre modifications, AND if they could prove that the accident would NOT have happened if they tyres were standard, THEN what you say may well apply. But its very unlikely in the case of these tyres.

Insurance companies all say your insurance CAN BE void if you modify the bike ... but thats very different from them telling you it IS void if you modify the bike. An obvious example is if you have non road approved tyres or a broken indicator on your bike and your bike gets stolen. Whether or not they can prove you had non approved tyres (or a busted indicator) on your bike at the time it got stolen is totally irrelevant to the fact that it got stolen. A court will order the insurance company to pay.

I have three million non TuV approved modifications to my X-Challenge and I still get it insured every year for theft and the usual compulsory stuff and have no qualms that if the bike gets stolen, I will get paid out. Because none of my modifications affect the security of the bike as compared to how it comes from the factory. If you had a bike with factory electronic security and you modified it so that it was disabled, and then your bike got stolen, you might have an issue with the insurance company. Thats a modification that they would claim invalidates your policy. But the exact same modification would not invalidate your policy if you had a crash. Because then the modified alarm is irrelevant to the crash, whereas it is relevant to the theft.
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Old 05-19-2013, 11:25 AM   #7690
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The law is actually typically nowhere near that extreme. Its quite reasonable actually.

Your insurance is only not valid if they can prove to a court that any modification you did was specifically responsible for causing the accident. i.e. for someone who modified their tyres to work like the ones without the centre ridge, it would (a) have to be an accident caused specifically and only by that tyre and (b) be proven that the removal of the central ridge was specifically the issue that caused the accident, and that (c) - most importantly - the accident would not have happened had the tyre not been modified.

Thats pretty unlikely to be honest. If they could prove that the only reason or primary reason for the accident was the tyre modifications, AND if they could prove that the accident would NOT have happened if they tyres were standard, THEN what you say may well apply. But its very unlikely in the case of these tyres.

Insurance companies all say your insurance CAN BE void if you modify the bike ... but thats very different from them telling you it IS void if you modify the bike. An obvious example is if you have non road approved tyres or a broken indicator on your bike and your bike gets stolen. Whether or not they can prove you had non approved tyres (or a busted indicator) on your bike at the time it got stolen is totally irrelevant to the fact that it got stolen. A court will order the insurance company to pay.

I have three million non TuV approved modifications to my X-Challenge and I still get it insured every year for theft and the usual compulsory stuff and have no qualms that if the bike gets stolen, I will get paid out. Because none of my modifications affect the security of the bike as compared to how it comes from the factory. If you had a bike with factory electronic security and you modified it so that it was disabled, and then your bike got stolen, you might have an issue with the insurance company. Thats a modification that they would claim invalidates your policy. But the exact same modification would not invalidate your policy if you had a crash. Because then the modified alarm is irrelevant to the crash, whereas it is relevant to the theft.
Hi Walter,

You're right - and wrong :)

Yes, the reality is always different from the letter of the law, especially here in Spain. But the insurance companies employ hundreds of actuaries who are on the lookout for anything that can get them off the hook.

At the end of the day it's the owner/rider's risk. That's all I was saying.

Regs

Simon

Meanwhile, back on X-Country tech modifications. I wish I'd had something a bit more mud plugging than the Heidenau Scout today in this terrible wet spring in the Pyrenees - as one wag has already said, , "Nice bash plate"

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Old 05-19-2013, 01:22 PM   #7691
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Now wait a minute ! Is that a set-up picture ? A fake fall?

How did you go down there ?? Road doesnt look so bad.

Alcohol?

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Old 05-19-2013, 04:22 PM   #7692
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I hate to do it but I am forced to sell my well farkled 2008 X-Country . This past January 24th, I wrecked my truck in an accident when an 87 year old driver ran me off the road. I sustained injuries that have not allow me to ride any of my motorcycles since. A few weeks ago, I reluctantly sold my Ducati 696 Monster. I'm coming the realization my riding days might be over. As much as I dont want too, Im selling my X-Country. I figured I would offer it up here before anywhere else. Im asking $5,250.00 and if anyone is interested, they can PM me for details and pictures before I list it elsewhere.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:46 PM   #7693
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Sorry to here that man.
Wish you getting back on track soon!
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:30 AM   #7694
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Thanks. It could be worse. At least I'm able to keep working and get around reasonable well. I'm trying to hang on to my FLH with the hope I'll be able to ride it sometime later. If I can't ride I'll wind up giving it to my son. I hate to part with any of my bikes. I knew the day would come due to age when I wouldn't be able to ride but I thought I had at least a good 10 or 15 years worth of riding left in me. The next in line to sell after the X-Country will be the FXDXT. You can only ride one at a time anyhow.
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Old 05-25-2013, 09:55 AM   #7695
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Now wait a minute ! Is that a set-up picture ? A fake fall?

How did you go down there ?? Road doesnt look so bad.

Alcohol?
Comon leafman60, everybody in europe knows how steep those mountains are over there.
The picture might not reveal tendencies ....hope so
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