ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > GSpot > Parallel Universe
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 09-20-2007, 10:45 AM   #1
papihijo OP
n00b
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Oddometer: 8
Laugh Versys vs F650gs

hi, I am looking to buy one of these two bikes, will do must street and longtrip riding, no offroad. come from a honda backround back home XL250cc...but in the US seems like 250s are too small. Honda does not offer anything like this except for the 919....(I like it but not so sure about riding position for long trips). Any comments or help will be greatly appreciated. Glad I found this site! will see you around.
papihijo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2007, 12:54 PM   #2
ctfz1
Beastly Adventurer
 
ctfz1's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Oddometer: 1,140
kAWI.
ctfz1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2007, 01:13 PM   #3
Jack Daniel
See Ya At The Swamp
 
Jack Daniel's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Oddometer: 12,019
WTF, I know I already posted in this thread while it was in the cellar

"Buy The Kawi"

I guess the mods cleared out all the BS and took mine with it
__________________
Only he that has traveled the road knows where the holes are deep

The Scrub The Swamp
Jack Daniel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2007, 02:30 PM   #4
Hannda
Short, fat, bearded, slow
 
Hannda's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Location: Not yet far enough away from town
Oddometer: 27,837
Quote:
Originally Posted by papihijo
hi, I am looking to buy one of these two bikes, will do must street and longtrip riding, no offroad. come from a honda backround back home XL250cc...but in the US seems like 250s are too small. Honda does not offer anything like this except for the 919....(I like it but not so sure about riding position for long trips). Any comments or help will be greatly appreciated. Glad I found this site! will see you around.
If you're going road only, the Versys would be the way to go. The Fgs is a great bike, but it's a thumper. With thumpers come vibrations - that you're willing to accept if you need one bike to do everything, but why bother if your riding is to be road only.
Hannda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2007, 08:36 PM   #5
papihijo OP
n00b
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Oddometer: 8
Thanks, so far so good for the versys. i think i will stay away from the BMW; the older style, and the extra money.....not worth it for me...... have not heard bad reviews except some people disliking the style....I particularly like it.

Hopefully will come back with my own reviews after my first ride....
papihijo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2007, 10:16 PM   #6
Gustavo
Motociclista Errante
 
Gustavo's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Sometimes in Hillsburrito
Oddometer: 2,286
Papi, there are several threads here with reviews of the Versys as well as on Road Warriors. And, if you read more, go to this site:

http://www.versys.co.uk/index.php?op..._smf&Itemid=31



Gustavo
Gustavo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2007, 09:15 AM   #7
papihijo OP
n00b
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Oddometer: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gustavo
Papi, there are several threads here with reviews of the Versys as well as on Road Warriors. And, if you read more, go to this site:

http://www.versys.co.uk/index.php?op..._smf&Itemid=31



Gustavo
Thanks, I have read the great one where you and pilot exchange reviews. I am just waiting for my dealer to get some in. how much did you pay for yours? the dealer is talking the usual crap that many people are waiting for it and that there are no discounts below the msrp....what do you think?
papihijo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2007, 10:36 AM   #8
Gustavo
Motociclista Errante
 
Gustavo's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Sometimes in Hillsburrito
Oddometer: 2,286
It depends where you are at. Yes, there is a lot of interest, and it didn't help that Kawasaki is slowly releasing the bikes (most dealers in my area didn't even order one initially, so only a few dealers got bikes in the first shipment that showed up around here). But, despite that, I got a bike at a nice discount (and a rear rack) from a dealer than only had one bike (and the only bike at that time in the Portland metro area).

In the last few days I have been getting calls from all the dealers that just got bikes in, so there are more bikes out there now.


Gustavo
Gustavo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-21-2007, 02:28 PM   #9
papihijo OP
n00b
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Oddometer: 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gustavo
It depends where you are at. Yes, there is a lot of interest, and it didn't help that Kawasaki is slowly releasing the bikes (most dealers in my area didn't even order one initially, so only a few dealers got bikes in the first shipment that showed up around here). But, despite that, I got a bike at a nice discount (and a rear rack) from a dealer than only had one bike (and the only bike at that time in the Portland metro area).

In the last few days I have been getting calls from all the dealers that just got bikes in, so there are more bikes out there now.


Gustavo
I am in Miami, FL. Around here only one dealer has it, it is an exclusive KAWA dealer, the other dealers some don't even know about the bike...there is a kawa dealer show this upcoming week...let's hope they get some more in...
papihijo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2007, 03:57 PM   #10
Jutta
Into the remote places
 
Jutta's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Logan, Australia
Oddometer: 496
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannda
If you're going road only, the Versys would be the way to go. The Fgs is a great bike, but it's a thumper. With thumpers come vibrations - that you're willing to accept if you need one bike to do everything, but why bother if your riding is to be road only.
I have ridden 50,000ks on my twin spark Dakar. I wish to make it clear that it does not vibrate and is a comfortable long distance all roads tourer. Here's the good and the bad.

Good

Powerful, reliable, smooth and economical motor
Great handling
Comfortable
Great styling
ABS

Bad

Too heavy
Routine servicing is a pain
notchy gear box
no helmet lock
indicators not flexible
Jutta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-22-2007, 08:22 PM   #11
Gustavo
Motociclista Errante
 
Gustavo's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Sometimes in Hillsburrito
Oddometer: 2,286
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jutta
I wish to make it clear that it does not vibrate and is a comfortable long distance all roads tourer.
Everything is relative and also biased based on what you are comparing it to...


Gustavo
Gustavo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2007, 05:17 AM   #12
Jutta
Into the remote places
 
Jutta's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Logan, Australia
Oddometer: 496
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gustavo
Everything is relative and also biased based on what you are comparing it to...


Gustavo
Compared to other dual purpose 650s .

Would you have expected me to compare it with an R1?
Jutta is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2007, 12:00 PM   #13
Gustavo
Motociclista Errante
 
Gustavo's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Sometimes in Hillsburrito
Oddometer: 2,286
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jutta
Would you have expected me to compare it with an R1?
A Versys? I thought that was the question...


Gustavo
Gustavo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2007, 08:16 PM   #14
DougRoost
Gnarly Adventurer
 
DougRoost's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Oddometer: 395
First, you're comparing a beast (multi-cylinder bike on this forum) to a bit more dual sport thumper (single cylinder) bike. Further, you posted in the Beasts forum, not the Thumpers forum, so I guess you're fishing for what you want to hear. The closest competitor to a F650GS is really a KTM 640 Adventure, but even that isn't too fair. The Rotax engine in that F650GS is a nice, smooth piece, especially compared to the LC4 engine in the KTM.

I've been going through the same thought process, but for an adventure bike to add to my 2 stroke dirt bike. For street only, and a little exploring, get the Versys. If you really want to ride a mix of road and some offroad (gravel roads, 2 track, occasional single track), get the F650GS. If you want to do even more offroad, land some decent jumps, etc., get the Dakar race replica KTM 640 Adventure and live with some vibes and euro backwardness of the LC4 engine.

Another indicator is tire selection and aftermarket support. The KTM runs standard size offroad tires with tubes, while the other bikes run street size tubeless tires. They all have good luggage and rack options now so in this group that's not a deal breaker.
__________________
Doug
1999 KTM 300 E/XC -- even better now that it's an Eric Gorr ported 310.
Looking for an adventure bike to add to it
Austin MotoSports Association www.amsaclub.org
DougRoost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2007, 07:05 AM   #15
papihijo OP
n00b
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Oddometer: 8
Thanks for your input. You are right on, I'd be doing more street than offroad (90/10) so the versys is a better option for me. So far, I can't find (here in the US) another bike that offers what the versys does in terms of value for your money besides the Vstrom and I personally like the versys better, I am sure aftermarket support is coming along. thanks again.
papihijo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 04:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014