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Old 12-18-2007, 05:43 PM   #1
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Is Planning Required?

Do I have really have to plan?

1 > Tell the nagging wife to KMA
2 > What if I just buy an adventure bike and........
3 > Give it a going over to check things out.
4 > Throw my riding gear in a side bag
5 > Throw my cameras in the tankbag
6 > Throw tools, brake pads, and a spare tube in the other sidebag,
7 > Get my passport credit cards and some cash
8 > Buy a few cool items at REI
9 > Stop at Walmart & "Buy Some Stuff"
10>Ride to Mexico in search of cool roads, spicy food & hot women
(or is that spicy women and hot food)
11> Repeat #10 for Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Paraguay, Chile...

OH NO THIS IS STARTING TO SOUND LIKE A PLAN........
I'd better stop and just do it.

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Anyone want to join me?
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:38 PM   #2
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You can do that just as easily as a roadtrip to Kansas. Mexico isn't the remote warzone that some people make it out to be. It's just a place south of Texas. You can wing it easily if you have the ambition.

But wait... doesn't this thread constitute planning? You can't start a thread asking about how to not plan for an upcoming trip.

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Old 12-19-2007, 02:44 AM   #3
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Yup, some of the most fun trips I've taken were spur of the moment, check the tires and oil, throw some shit in the bags the night before or morning of and go. If you forgot something, buy it on the road or improvise.
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Old 12-19-2007, 05:41 AM   #4
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I think some folks over plan as a way of dealing with the apprehension of venturing into the unknown. For others, it's a way of procrastinating to avoid the apprehension of the unknown. I decided around September to go to AK in June '08. I can't understand why some feel they need two years to map out a strategy. Mind you, I am a world class procrastinator, having never gotten anything done on time in my twenty-five year career but, when I finally decide to do something, it's done. My planning so far:

Me: I'm thinking of doing a cross-country trip next spring.
Wife: ok
Me a couple weeks later: I think I'll go to Alaska while I'm out that way.
Wife: ok (Thankfully she is geographically challenged.)
Me: I put in a vacation request for six weeks.
Boss: Well I don't know, that's kind of long to approve...
Me: If you don't I will complain about all the dead wood and ghost employees who don't do a damn thing around here.
Boss: Approved.
Me: I want a new GS.
Dealer: I ordered one for you. Should be in Jan/Feb.
Me: I like that BMW Boulder jacket.
Dealer: Yep, it's $75 off.
Me: Sold.

Yet to do: buy panniers, crash bars, etc when bike comes in, pack, empty ATM, go.
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Old 12-19-2007, 09:15 AM   #5
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I think some folks over plan as a way of dealing with the apprehension of venturing into the unknown. For others, it's a way of procrastinating to avoid the apprehension of the unknown.
I probably "over plan," but it's not for either of those reasons. I plan and research extensively because when I sit down to read about some place, it's like I'm already there. The planning for me is almost as good as the trip itself. It's great when I read about a place, knowing that I'll be going there.

That said, in April of this year, I didn't own a motorcycle. In May I was riding south to Mexico. Once in Mexico, I decided I would go to Central America too, so I had to scrounge around for maps and information about Central America mid-route.

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Old 12-19-2007, 09:24 AM   #6
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Old 12-19-2007, 11:51 AM   #7
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I probably "over plan," but it's not for either of those reasons. I plan and research extensively because when I sit down to read about some place, it's like I'm already there. The planning for me is almost as good as the trip itself. It's great when I read about a place, knowing that I'll be going there.

That said, in April of this year, I didn't own a motorcycle. In May I was riding south to Mexico. Once in Mexico, I decided I would go to Central America too, so I had to scrounge around for maps and information about Central America mid-route.

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+1 to this

Sometimes planning is really a necessity though... I've been trying to plan a spring break trip for this March, but the 1st two or three places I liked would have been snowed in
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Old 12-21-2007, 08:26 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by motolocopat
Do I have really have to plan?

1 > Tell the nagging wife to KMA
2 > What if I just buy an adventure bike and........
3 > Give it a going over to check things out.
4 > Throw my riding gear in a side bag
5 > Throw my cameras in the tankbag
6 > Throw tools, brake pads, and a spare tube in the other sidebag,
7 > Get my passport credit cards and some cash
8 > Buy a few cool items at REI
9 > Stop at Walmart & "Buy Some Stuff"
10>Ride to Mexico in search of cool roads, spicy food & hot women
(or is that spicy women and hot food)
11> Repeat #10 for Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Paraguay, Chile...

OH NO THIS IS STARTING TO SOUND LIKE A PLAN........
I'd better stop and just do it.

?QUESTIONS?
Did I miss anything?
Anyone want to join me?

All you need are #2 & #7....make up the rest along the way!
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:39 AM   #9
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That's narrowing it down

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All you need are #2 & #7....make up the rest along the way!
Yeah that is pretty well cutting to the chase......
Hell even the old lady will figure it out when I don't show up for a few days............weeks
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:07 AM   #10
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All you need are #2 & #7....make up the rest along the way!
I'm sorta in that group too. I don't like plans, schedules etc. But even if you're the type that calculates how many squirts of toothpaste the trip will require for x days and won't pack a squeeze more...it's all good. Seem's those who excesive plan and those who don't plan at all both seem to have a great time.

Granted this may have something to do with being on a motorcycle for an extended period and not so much with plan/no plan.


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Old 12-22-2007, 01:13 PM   #11
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Hey!
When my lady and I first started planning our trip, one of the first things we did was buy a copy of The Adventure Riders Handbook. Upon reading the first couple of pages the author said if you are planning a trip like a trans Americas and beyond like we are, then we would need at least one year of trip prep. We laughed and said "naaaah" as we have both travelled fairly extensively. Well here we are 14 months later after we read that book and finally we are ready to leave in 3 weeks time. It all depends on where you are going and what you want to do or see. Sometimes just winging it can be the best but when it comes to a trip that will cross multiple borders like ours will and being on the road for the next 2 years, we wanted to know many things like where are the least crowded places to cross where there are not as many rip-off border "helpers" waiting to fleece some bucks out of you, whats the best light weight gear available, where are some of the best out of the way places etc. All that takes time to learn. So I say there is definitely a place for those who like to plan a lot, but also for those who just want to take off and go. Good luck with whatever you decide and have an awesome time and remember, its the trip itself that is the core of it all, not what bike you ride or what helmet or any of that stuff. Now go do what is best for you and write a great trip report for all your fellow ADV'ers.
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Old 12-23-2007, 01:57 PM   #12
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There's a lot to be said about impromptu trips without a real plan, but . . .

I've always found that the more research I put into the trip, the more I enjoy the trip. To me, the planning is part of the fun of the whole experience.
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Old 12-23-2007, 02:34 PM   #13
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I've been an operations type guy most of my working career life. There are several approaches ranging from the Six Ps = Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance all the way to if you, "plan early - plan often" meaning revisions out the yang so plan as little and as late as possible.

If you like the planning part as one poster mentioned - do it.

If not, I say don't worry about planning the trip. Just plan for the things likely to happen - which comes down to tools, spares, money, comms, and if you like, medical rescue insurance. The let the trip unfold as it may. The money can even shave a good bit off of that short list.
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Old 12-24-2007, 06:46 AM   #14
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Extensive planning is a nice way to occupy your mind, before departure.
Kind of like cheating time and leaving (mentally) a few weeks early.
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Old 12-25-2007, 08:48 AM   #15
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Do I have really have to plan?
 
1 > Tell the nagging wife to KMA
2 > What if I just buy an adventure bike and........
3 > Give it a going over to check things out.
4 > Throw my riding gear in a side bag
5 > Throw my cameras in the tankbag
6 > Throw tools, brake pads, and a spare tube in the other sidebag,
7 > Get my passport credit cards and some cash
8 > Buy a few cool items at REI
9 > Stop at Walmart & "Buy Some Stuff"
10>Ride to Mexico in search of cool roads, spicy food & hot women
(or is that spicy women and hot food)
11> Repeat #10 for Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Paraguay, Chile...
Exactly what Im doing in Feb. At least the central America part... I leave on the 5th for 6 to 8 weeks. Oh I did pick up several maps and get a few shots... See ya on the road...
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