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Old 11-29-2011, 12:06 PM   #196
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Earliest time of the year to go and miss the spring snow...



It's all good really...

Now back to the trail.

This has prompted me to ask the question...

How early can I go and do the whole trail and be safe to miss the late winter/spring snow at higher elevations?

I can only do an early season attempt.

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Old 11-29-2011, 12:37 PM   #197
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I'd wait till mid July at the earliest.
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Old 11-29-2011, 05:30 PM   #198
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I'd wait till mid July at the earliest.
Colorado has two seasons, August and Winter.
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Old 08-22-2014, 06:07 PM   #199
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Automotive GPSs don't like tracks, you can convert them to a route with BaseCamp. And you could convert them to a gpx file also.
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:34 PM   #200
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Shit.
I thought it was tracks? All this shit is so confusing.

I put Kevin's download on the gps and bam, a clear route highlighted by a magenta line, easy as you please.


I do the same thing with Sams download and I see nothing. ?

Basecamp/Garmin/tracks/routes has got to be the most non intuitive and aggravating crap ever for a newbie.
Words matter. Does Kevin have Routes or Tracks? Later you say "Kevin's Map". They are all very different things.
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Old 08-23-2014, 04:32 AM   #201
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Well, you basically screwed yourself. Neither of those units was designed to do what you now want to do.

And it is appropriate that you are screwed, because what you are trying to do is with information from a scumbag who is screwing Sam.

Most people have the decency to support Sam and the work he did creating the TAT. An "Open Source World" does not mean you can go steal someone else's work and call it your own.
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Old 08-23-2014, 08:03 AM   #202
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They both seem to be based off tracks.

Idk. I still haven't got it to work, so I don't guess I will be able to use the map at all.

And thanks for the couple of guys being negative as hell and trying their best to alienate me and others that use maps they didn't pay money for.

Just consider this thread closed guys.
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Old 08-23-2014, 08:27 AM   #203
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I bought Sams TN GPS tracks, but for the life of me, I can't get them to show up on my Nuvi 2555lmt or Nuvi 1450lmt. I had no trouble with GPSkevins tracks showing up.
Neither of those gps units will accept tracks. You figured that out.

"GPSkevins tracks" show up because what you got is a _map_ made from his tracks, not the tracks themselves. Your gps units will accept maps.

Load the TN tracks into Basecamp and make a list of the intersections, the distance between them, and which way to turn at each one. Put it on your tankbag. Voila! Or get a TN map and a yellow marker and make your own "tracks" to follow.

I bet you can find your way across TN without having a gps to lead you every mile of the way. If you get stuck, ask someone. And if you don't ride some particular section _exactly_ as someone described, what does it matter? Have fun!
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Old 08-23-2014, 10:04 AM   #204
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Your gps will except waypoints, so in basecamp make a waypoint at each intersection, number the waypoints consecutively, 1, 2, 3,.... load to the gps. Bring up waypoint #1, hit "go" when you get there bring up waypoint #2, hit "go', and so on, and so on......................

Hey how 'bout calling Sam's customer support hotline..........
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Old 08-23-2014, 10:45 AM   #205
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I think I will do just that. I am going to head to Tellico and take what dirt roads I can remember and just make sure I just generally head west.

I bought the most detailed TN paper map I could find online but probably 75% or more of the trail roads aren't on it, it appears.

What makes this more difficult is that here at our new house we recently built we have no internet and I have to drive a few miles just to get enough cell signal to look up anything, or write here and it's aggravating as hell. Lol.

I'll be looking forward to the West, it's supposed to be over 100 degrees today, and HUMID. The tent should be interesting.
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Old 08-23-2014, 02:54 PM   #206
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And thanks for the couple of guys being negative as hell and trying their best to alienate me and others that use maps they didn't pay money for.

Just consider this thread closed guys.
Alienate you? Nah. Just commenting on scumbags like gpskevin freely admitting to stealing others' work, and those that use it.

If you want to do it right, buy a GPS that will handle tracks and buy the tracks from Sam.

A Garmin GPSMap unit like the 60Cx, or 78, or Montana will get the job done.
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Old 08-24-2014, 10:59 AM   #207
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Alienate you? Nah. Just commenting on scumbags like gpskevin freely admitting to stealing others' work, and those that use it.

If you want to do it right, buy a GPS that will handle tracks and buy the tracks from Sam.

A Garmin GPSMap unit like the 60Cx, or 78, or Montana will get the job done.
I came across the gpskevin website while Google'ing tat, cobdabbqbr, and a few other trail/ride names mentioned here on advrider. this is the first negativity mentioned I've seen. people have remailed me, and I them, tracks we have ridden since I started playing with GPS records. is the negative vibe described somewhere, so I can read it first hand?
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scrolling through the words to get to the pictures is cool, but i'm really just here for the tracks and waypoints... post some ok ?
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Old 08-24-2014, 01:05 PM   #208
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is the negative vibe described somewhere, so I can read it first hand?
Like the War on Drugs - which is actually the War on Some Drugs, this is the War on Some Tracks. Post and share any track you like except anything called TAT.

Off to Jo Momma!
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Old 08-24-2014, 04:29 PM   #209
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is the negative vibe described somewhere, so I can read it first hand?
Stealing TAT info is discussed at length here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=545857
Bottom line, TAT was created by Sam, who sells the info to follow it in order to fund development of more similar great adventures. When you ride TAT, and don't pay Sam, you're stealing from him and discouraging further development. He states that on his website.

There are lots of people who don't understand the concept of paying for something that's so easy to steal. Or better stated, they don't understand it until they are the victim of the theft. They come up with dozens of excuses why it's ok to ride TAT without paying, yet will defend their own wallet to the end of time. There are lots of tracks for other rides that are free. If you don't want to pay Sam for TAT, do one of those other rides.

I have shared thousands of miles of tracks with the world, including parts of the Great Western Trail. But some of the tracks I have created are carefully protected, and only shared with those I trust. Those people generally pay a good sum to ride those select rides, and they come back every time I have something new to offer, even when I charge.
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Old 08-24-2014, 09:59 PM   #210
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oh good Lord that was a bag of worms. sorry about the stir.
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