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Old 01-01-2008, 03:53 PM   #1
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LC4 rear wheel bearings

Yo y'all,

Whilst changing the rear tire on my 04 SMC, I went to balance it and noticed my rear wheel bearings were stiff and kind of crunchy. So off to search for parts I went. I found this thread:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=16

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Part #0625062052 6205 - 2RSHC3HMTF7 has been replaced with #0625060060 6006 DDU2CG23S6NM as mode durable.
I can't confirm this anywhere else online. Does anyone have any idea if this is correct? The 2052 is the OEM bearing and the 0060 is about half the price. So if it is an upgrade as well, that would seem to be a heckuva deal.

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Old 01-01-2008, 09:49 PM   #2
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Also, I couldn't find a WB R&R thread, do you just hammer a drift onto the long inner spacer tube to knock the bearing and spacer/bushing out?

IOW:
http://www.ktm-parts.com/pdf/KTM2004/2004_625SXC.pdf
Page 26 (manual page 29) hit the drift on part 3 which goes through 6 and 4 and touches part 7?
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:31 PM   #3
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Yep, your on the right track.
You will find that the bushings, part #7 pull out by hand when you take the wheel off.
There is no gentle way to get the bearings out.
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Old 01-01-2008, 11:48 PM   #4
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Propane torch heat can really help the removal-installation process.

Better check the sprocket carrier bearing for wear as well.
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Old 01-02-2008, 06:44 AM   #5
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Loaded has cheap balls!

bearings that is. Check out:http://stenhouseracing.com/shop/inde...414f3081c58fd5
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Old 01-02-2008, 08:33 AM   #6
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The 6205 and 6006 bearings are different dimensions and are not interchangeable.
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Old 01-02-2008, 12:17 PM   #7
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Ok, I did some better investigating, Bmwktmbill was correct. The crunchy bearing is in the cush hub/sprocket carrier, not the hub, those 2 are OK. As it turns out, the bearing itself (#28) seems to be fine, the crunchiness is in the seal covering (#29) between the bearing and the axle bushing (#26). THere is a lot of dirt between them and it was hampering the free spinning of the bearing.

I had the wrong fiche pulled up above, this is the correct one and is below also.

http://65.57.254.60/munnracing/showd...mber_id=103489

The axle bushing will not come out easily, I haven't tried heat yet. The seal covering will need to be replaced since I've screwed it up, now. The Bearing is apparently a double ball bearing and it's 79.00 bucks . I may have found a cheaper solution though, via crazybrit here.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ght=0625032057.

I fear that I will hurt the bearing by heat and pounding when I try and get the axle bushing out. I don't like the seal setup since it seems to allow crap to get in between it and the bearing. Any ideas, or am I on the right track?

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Old 01-03-2008, 11:59 AM   #8
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So, will heating and beating on the bearing hurt it? (assuming I take a modicum of care)
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Old 01-03-2008, 01:23 PM   #9
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i assume you are talking for installation as harming the old bearings isn't usually a concern if you are tossing them in the round file (trash).

my vote would be heat the hub (not so hot you can't handle it) and freeze (the colder the better) the bearings for installation. they don't quite drop in but it helps.

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Old 01-03-2008, 01:30 PM   #10
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i assume you are talking for installation as harming the old bearings isn't usually a concern if you are tossing them in the round file (trash).

my vote would be heat the hub (not so hot you can't handle it) and freeze (the colder the better) the bearings for installation. they don't quite drop in but it helps.

good luck!
What I'd like to do is get the bushing out of the bearing so I can replace the dust seal (#29), since I hammered it flat. The whole bearing assy came out of the hub pretty easy and the bushing loosened up and I was able to figure out that it was the seal rubbing, not the bearing itself.

So my goal is to keep the old bearing if heat and pounding won't destroy it, put a new seal in between it and the bushing and reseat the old bearing.

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edit: waynesville eh? Howdy neighbor
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Old 01-03-2008, 01:41 PM   #11
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I would suggest replacing a bearing any time you have it out. It may be undamaged but have a small amount of wear that cannot yet be detected. No bigger bummer than having to tear it apart to replace the bearing 6 months down the road.

I recently did my honda weel bearings and learned a expensive lesson. I have done my fair share on atv,cars etc but no bikes. I used heat and puch method to remove them and did not pay close enough attention. The bearing went slightly off center and cracked the hub. Well $450 dollars later it's fixed but it hurt...real bad.
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:01 PM   #12
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Ooh, came in this thread to warn you about that seal dust cover. It's very fragile

You can get a new sprocket carrier bearing ($42) from:
http://stenhouseracing.com/shop/inde...7400bbbb31562c
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:23 PM   #13
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Ooh, came in this thread to warn you about that seal dust cover. It's very fragile
I found that out.

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You can get a new sprocket carrier bearing ($42) from:
http://stenhouseracing.com/shop/inde...7400bbbb31562c
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Old 01-03-2008, 03:50 PM   #14
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That 3205 AV seal washer can probably be found in a shop. I gave up and ordered an OEM. The bearing I have from stenhouse is a INA 3205 2RS.
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:31 PM   #15
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Use a long skinny punch with a good flat end and knock them out from the inside, clean them up really good and put some kinda grease or "Never Seize" on them so they won't get stuck as quickly or as easily.
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