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Old 01-07-2008, 04:55 PM   #16
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I was hoping to see someone like my Norwegian grandfather, actually putting a tire on with their bare hands without the use of any "tools", straps included. He used to do it on model T Fords. Innovative idea nonetheless. Kudos.

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Old 01-07-2008, 05:08 PM   #17
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I bet those straps flop around a bit at speed

If that works on my damm dirtbike tires I'll need to send ya some beer amigo!@!
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Old 01-07-2008, 05:18 PM   #18
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Thanks for the kudos my brothers. I appreciate it.


Some of your questions:

I suspect getting those straps tight was a bit of work, right?
Yea, that took a few minutes, tightening the straps a little bit at a time. I'm working on a coupla tools for that job. The trick is to start the buckle in the right spot so it won't end up over the beads. The light-duty non-tubular-webbing straps are a necessity.


- Reckon it would work with a tubed tire as well if you start with the valve first.
- Man ...I wonder if that would work ok with a tube type tire.
Yes it does. You can tuck the valve stem into the tire too. Rim locks might be a curious difficulty.


I will be trying this. Let me add one question - after this process are you lying in a heap of your own sweat and blood or is it as easy as it looks?
Heh heh Instead of my hands, I did the process the first few times using my feet. You know, straddling the tire with my feet at the 3 and 9 o'clock positions.

The wheel in the picture isn't attached to the 'skids', and it tiddlywinked me to the ground more than once. When you get a feel of where to push the tire (out close to the tread, ahead of the bead rollover point) it almost falls onto the wheel.


- Now, how do you get it off with just the straps?
- How do you unleash the beasty?
- I would think that once bead is broken, you may be able to fish straps around a flatted tire and do same in reverse.
Ahh, now there's the rub. I have a trick for that too but I haven't work out the details yet. Getting the straps on the tire and the beads compressed, when the tire is already on the wheel, is a real test of patience.


I wonder if tywraps would work as good as the nylon straps?
Poly twine works if you have the patience. In some ways the twine is easier, because it can be tied with the 'knot' located in the 'airspace' between the beads.


I was hoping to see someone like my Norwegian grandfather, actually putting a tire on with their bare hands without the use of any "tools", straps included. He used to do it on model T Fords.
It's like tearing a phonebook in half. Once you know the trick.


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Old 01-07-2008, 05:29 PM   #19
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Tire changing solutions range from the simple to complex, but what's needed still remains the same.

Square peg, round hole....not, which frustrates many people.

Hoenstly, no BS, IMO, not telling a lie, no kidding here, etc, some lube with tire tools and knowledge of their use makes for quick work and an easy solution.
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Old 01-07-2008, 05:43 PM   #20
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I applaud your innovation for its own sake...that's pretty cool. But if you you know how to use tire irons, it's pretty fuss free, too, and you can use the irons to get the tire off again, too.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:05 PM   #21
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Sure, you guys are correct. I don't think Poolside is trying to create a new "product". I took it as "Hey. Look what I figured out!" It is just one more of those tidbits to file away for future use in some remote corner of nowhere when it could possibly save the adventure.

It would totally solve rim scratching problem for some folks, though.

It reminds me of the urban legend of the hillbillys with the blown fuse in the truck. The quick-thinking Cledus shoves a .22 shell into the fuse holder and the truck speeds off. A few miles later he gets shot in the nuts by same .22 shell. This is just like that, except nobody will get shot in the nuts. At least not for using this method of tire mounting... You just get the positive side of the innovation.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:09 PM   #22
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Pretty cool eh? No tire irons. Only your hands.
I've been known to do it with nothing but a twenty dollar bill.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:22 PM   #23
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Wink no tool mounting

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Awsum you the man !!! I have to try that.
But now i want to see you get AIR in it
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:24 PM   #24
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Who runs a tourance on a Ninja?
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:48 PM   #25
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Who runs a tourance on a Ninja?
Heh heh, I was wondering when you were going to catch that

The Kawi wheel is an old beater, victim of many rolling burnout-till-flats. But the DOT bead profile is as good as gold.


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Old 01-07-2008, 08:37 PM   #26
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Nice work Jim, looks like that would be an excellent field fix, especially for the damned tube tires.

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Old 01-07-2008, 09:21 PM   #27
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I'm unclear (not unusual) how this will work for a tube-type knobby with a rimlock...can somebody edumacate me?

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Old 01-07-2008, 09:31 PM   #28
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If you do this one bead at a time you don't need to use straps. As mentioned, some lube helps too.
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Old 01-07-2008, 09:52 PM   #29
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Old 01-07-2008, 11:04 PM   #30
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Mount a Motorcycle Tire Without Using Tools??

Thought you said no tools? Sorry, but I see 8
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