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Old 01-21-2008, 03:00 PM   #1
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HID legality/ Heavy enforcement

This is more a search for additional info than anything. I know Fvmss 108 makes aftermaket HID illegal in the US, I was speaking with a Vendor selling Hella products, actually for my car, the person seemed very competent. They said NHTSA was cracking down on illegal HID's. They apparently fined a number of vendors who were displaying products at the SEMA show. At least for a manfacturer it is a 6000.00 dollar fine per rebased bulb.

So what's the truth if stopped, is it a fix it ticket or can they impound the vehicle/ big fine ( vendor I spoke to said LEO's would now be checking for complaint headlights) Does anyone have more info.

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Old 01-21-2008, 03:05 PM   #2
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And how exactly does a LEO look at your bike and determine if the HID is compliant or not?


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Old 01-21-2008, 03:31 PM   #3
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Eh?

Funny you mention it. Just today I read in an automobile magazine that Iowa is attempting to take drastic measures. They want to go as far as making HID lighting illegal even for new vehicles with factory installed HID.
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Old 01-21-2008, 04:30 PM   #4
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GB I guess they could look at a list to see if HID came on your bike. Also the D2S and D2R hook up differently on OEM applications different connector. Easier on cars, they are supposed to say D2S etc. on the light housing itself. I saw this on a new Subaru WRX Sti. I just thought Subaru was being smart so you knew what type of bulb to use during a replacement, little did I know it was the FEDs in action.

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Old 01-21-2008, 04:44 PM   #5
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I don't understand. Many new cars come from the factory with HID. They could never leave the factory without being approved by the DOT. Remember, federal law trumps local/state laws in the matters.
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Old 01-21-2008, 04:59 PM   #6
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What part of FMVSS 108 makes HID illegal?
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Old 01-21-2008, 05:23 PM   #7
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Oem and aftermarket are to different things from the DOT's perspective, FVMSS108 says that a replacement bulb must have the same characteristics as the one it replaces, so in order to replace a H7 with an HID the HID has to have a filament emitting the light, which obviously isn't the case, If you want to wade through it check out the NHTSA website, including the clarification letters, Basically if it didn't come with it, installing aftermarket is illegal, unless you can retrofit a fully compliant headlight assembly. They are also discussing additional laws on driving lights and potentially requiring auto-leveling and washing for HID setup's, this is already required in most of the EU.

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Old 01-21-2008, 05:31 PM   #8
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I think in the big scheme of things, if they are going to waste resources chasing HID violators, they are most likely to target cars.. If they are going to target bikes for any sort of compliance, you'd think they'd go after noise violators.. but.. when dealing with bureaucracy, common sense is not a pre-requisite.
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Old 01-21-2008, 05:39 PM   #9
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I just wonder what the fine is if ticketed, I was reading on a Law enforcement website that it varies widely, I think they will target cars before bikes and as long as you aren't playing ricky racer they will probably leave you alone, however one officer from BC said he would park any car he found with illegal HIDS I guess by park he meant impound.

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Old 01-21-2008, 05:49 PM   #10
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In the voice of Charlton Heston...

They can take my HID's when they can pry them from my cold ... dead ... housings

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Old 01-21-2008, 05:50 PM   #11
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They can take my HID's when they can pry them from my cold ... dead ... housings

+1

I have my doubts that they will ever know. I just got a state inspection and the inspector never batted an eye.

They have bigger/louder fishes to fry!

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Old 01-21-2008, 05:57 PM   #12
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My take is that the main objection is with HID Low Beams. I have them on my Highbeams only and I could give a rat's ass if they don't like them. I only use Highbeams when no one is around anyway.
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