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Old 08-22-2001, 08:51 AM   #1
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Old 08-22-2001, 02:30 PM   #2
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No Picture: Are they that worried about what people think? They must have seen the posts here on the new Suzuki
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Old 08-22-2001, 02:57 PM   #3
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I found a spy photo of the new Duc trailie.
Note that the top secret bike has been disguised with fenders and street tires.
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Old 08-29-2001, 04:26 PM   #4
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Another duc trailie spy photo

Another spy photo, of a later revision. I hear it's a great machine.

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Old 09-18-2001, 02:11 PM   #5
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Eeesh. Hard to see with the small image size, but it reminds me a bit of a KTM Duke--same kinds of headlights and stuff. I thought it looked sorta stylin' as a hooligan street machine but not something you'd take off road.

Seems like this class of machine is going the way of American 4WDs-turned-sport utes. Honda Passports and Ford Expeditions are 4WD but their bodies and suspensions hardly stand neighborhood potholes. :walk

The CapoNord, Navigator, and Varadero are all like that. :eyelashes
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Old 09-18-2001, 03:03 PM   #6
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if you want pictures, check this out:

http://www.mcnews.com.au/NewBikeCata...da/Default.htm

it actually looks kinda neat. it is probably great on the small back roads (like the navigator) but i wonder how this thing holds up on the long haul.
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Old 09-18-2001, 07:16 PM   #7
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Whoa!

So, whassup with the lights on the mirrors? Just reflectors or something more? Does that hinge-looking thing on the faring mean the windscreen is adjustable? How come silver has so many engine fins and red has none?

Inquiring minds wanna know.
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Old 09-18-2001, 08:47 PM   #8
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Whoa!

So, whassup with the lights on the mirrors? Just reflectors or something more? Does that hinge-looking thing on the faring mean the windscreen is adjustable? How come silver has so many engine fins and red has none?

Inquiring minds wanna know.
Mirrors look like turnsignals. WS looks non-adjustable. On the fins, I think you are looking at a cover on the red bike...looks like the same engine.

What's with the tires? Those would do real good in gravel, huh?
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Old 09-19-2001, 09:11 AM   #9
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How come silver has so many engine fins and red has none?
The right side of the Pantah-derived Duc engines are dominated by the cam-belt covers. They don't have fins. The right side doesn't have the cam-belt covers, so that's where they put the fins.

I understand that highly creative people have more of an appreciation for subtlely unsymmetrical designs of this sort.

The Pantah-derived engines are very narrow, barely wider than a Single.

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Old 09-19-2001, 09:38 AM   #10
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You will also notice that the lower cylinder has fins that run with the bore, and the upper cylinder had the more traditional radially arranged fins.

If you look at any Ducati, air or water-cooled, you'll also find the same case castings, from the lowly 750 up the the 996 (excepting the testratetta engines (sp?). 600's ran a wet clutch.


the rear cylinder usualy had to be run a bit richer than the front to account for heat. They still battle with this today, as evidenced by the scoops, etc used to route air to the rear cyl. Water cooling really helped.

The 2V motors (rubber band heads) really are quite simple to work on, even the desmo gear wasn't too bad to deal with. Access to the engine and valve gear was more the challenge.

The carburetion on these motors sucked ass- usually major re-jetting was needed. I gave up, and put Keihin flat slides on my 900. I hear the new FI is preety decent, though.

After break in, the 4V water-cooled engines rarely went out of valve adj

I do miss the power of my Duc- the thing felt like a tractor al the way up the redline.

Overall, I'd say I'm happier with my 1150 GS now, it does more things.

if this new bike has the pull and handling of the Ducatis, with the tractability of the GS, then I would say BMW is in for a run.
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