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Old 04-14-2015, 05:45 AM   #1
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Tires........

Need a good 50/50 combo for my XR650L, looking for high mileage, decent gravel fire road performance that is capable of 100km round trip highway commutes to work. I know asking about tires is like asking about oil, or chains and everyone has an opinion on what is best. All I know is the ones I want, Mefos are ridiculously expensive, even the Mitas and Heidenaus are damn pricey, so what is everyone running?
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:31 AM   #2
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Old 04-14-2015, 08:34 AM   #3
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I've been doing Duro Median HF904/903 on my KLX650C getting around 4000 miles before I take them off. They could go a bit more, but I don't run them bald in the center. Around $100/set in the U.S. I went with them 30,000 miles ago and with the road and off road performance I've never changed. I put a set on my 250 now as well.



Stick extremely well as I've found when riding with supermoto and sport bike riding friends. Then when off road they've done well too for a dual sport tire. It's the tread, which is much like the new Heidenau, a chevron pattern with support webs side to side for cornering stability, which creates a bit of a paddle effect for off road sand and mud. They clean out fairly well - again for a dual sport tire.
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Old 04-14-2015, 09:31 AM   #4
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Duros don't come in 140/80-18 and I've heard bad things about chunking on the Shinkos
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:03 AM   #5
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Don't believe everything you read in the Internet...

I went through several Shinko 244s on my KLR and they were my favorite tire. could get up to 3000 miles if I ran them all the way down.

I've got one on my KTM 690 right now and it is better on the street than the MT21 that came on the bike but really not enough tire for that bike on gravel roads/trails. Given the abuse a 690 can dish out to the rear tire if they were going to chunk this would be the bike to do it. Perhaps if I were riding rocky trails my experience would be different.

Most of the inexpensive tires (Shinko, Kenda, IRC) only come in a 5.1 inch width (130 mm) so if you really want a 140/80-18 your selection is limited to more expensive tires.
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Old 04-14-2015, 10:03 AM   #6
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Duros don't come in 140/80-18 and I've heard bad things about chunking on the Shinkos
Kind of a shame on the Duro. They do list a 4.60 which is as wide as OEM and only .1" narrower than the 130 like I run, but clearly you must think you need more tire. I've not had that problem, either on or off road with my Kaw. Might be worth a try for the cost.

I will tell you, it is possible to find threads on almost any brand for chunking. I've found them on Dunlops, Metzlers, and Mefos. I would not let that stop me unless there was a valid reason found for the chunking. One old tire or under-inflation or a number of other reasons can cause a fluke.
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:41 PM   #7
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These are suppose to wear better than a 606.

http://www.brapoffroad.com/motoz/tra...or-desert-h/t/
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Old 04-14-2015, 12:53 PM   #8
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I just melted a set of those MotoZ off in about 2000 miles (probably 75+% pavement). Partly my own fault for not airing up properly for the big loaded road miles I just did

Anybody have reliable road mileage figures for the Michelin T63?
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Old 04-14-2015, 01:29 PM   #9
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I just melted a set of those MotoZ off in about 2000 miles (probably 75+% pavement). Partly my own fault for not airing up properly for the big loaded road miles I just did

Anybody have reliable road mileage figures for the Michelin T63?
MT21 front and T63 rear is my staple DS combo. 4-5000 klm's for the T63 and 7-8K for the MT21. That's at 50 road - 50 gravel/sand/other. Gonna try those tractionators on the rear next though.
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:02 PM   #10
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Duros don't come in 140/80-18 and I've heard bad things about chunking on the Shinkos
when ridden on a GS1200.

Great tire for what it is.
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:19 PM   #11
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DO NOT USE THE 244 IN THE RAIN!!!!. It slipped under me and sent me in to guardrail. I was only going about 25 mph. At the time I was using a 606 front and a 244 rear. NOT A GOOD TIRE IN THE RAIN. I always run a 606 or MT21 in the front. I want good traction off road even if its 50% of the time. The rear the MT63 is a good all around tire where I ride. It doesn't cost that much and you get decent wear out of it.
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:40 PM   #12
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DO NOT USE THE 244 IN THE RAIN!!!!. It slipped under me and sent me in to guardrail. I was only going about 25 mph. At the time I was using a 606 front and a 244 rear. NOT A GOOD TIRE IN THE RAIN. I always run a 606 or MT21 in the front. I want good traction off road even if its 50% of the time. The rear the MT63 is a good all around tire where I ride. It doesn't cost that much and you get decent wear out of it.
I'm from Oregon and ride extensively in the rain. No issues with the Shinko in the rain. You're from SoCal where it rarely rains. Any tire is slippery in the rain if the road grime has not been washed off yet.

I'm not sure what an MT63 is. Do you mean the Michelin T63? I ran one on my KLR and thought it was pretty good but it evaporated in less than 1500 miles. Really awesome offroad however. Doesn't come in a 140/80-18 either.
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Old 04-14-2015, 02:59 PM   #13
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I don't understand why anyone likes the Shinko 244. I have tried them on two 650 singles and had the worst confidence ever...street and gravel. Maybe I'm just a lousy rider.

I realize many inmates totally swear by the 244 but I just don't get it.
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Old 04-14-2015, 03:15 PM   #14
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I don't understand why anyone likes the Shinko 244. I have tried them on two 650 singles and had the worst confidence ever...street and gravel. Maybe I'm just a lousy rider.

I realize many inmates totally swear by the 244 but I just don't get it.
Nah, It's probably me that's the lousy rider.

I think it's bike dependent. On the heavy KLR with only 40 hp they were a good combination of cheap, reasonably long lasting, enough traction for gravel roads, and yet on the street could be leaned way over with confidence.

On the 690 I'll be experimenting with a few more tires.
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Old 04-14-2015, 03:48 PM   #15
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I just melted a set of those MotoZ off in about 2000 miles (probably 75+% pavement). Partly my own fault for not airing up properly for the big loaded road miles I just did

Anybody have reliable road mileage figures for the Michelin T63?

That is double my mileage with MT21's or XCMH's on the 640. So that is positive to me.

I just put a set of MotoZ's on the 525 so I will know soon enough.
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