camping in the wild. - Page 3

wingysataday · 02-19-2008, 10:19 PM

this always helps me sleep better. hollow points 32 rounds in 2 clips. night night for me and the bear hopefully! Also bear spray has been deemed uneffective. Small caliber gun may not do all that much to a bear but is sure a whole-hellaofalot better than a stick!

swjohnsey · 02-20-2008, 05:03 AM

Yeah, that will kill a bear. BWAHAHAHA!!! If a bear attacks your outa put it in you mouth and pull the trigger.

wingysataday · 02-20-2008, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by swjohnsey

Yeah, that will kill a bear. BWAHAHAHA!!! If a bear attacks your outa put it in you mouth and pull the trigger.

what if you shot him in the face or head? What else could you do? It would be much more appropriate I gues to have an elephant gun

scarysharkface · 02-20-2008, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wingysataday

what if you shot him in the face or head? What else could you do? It would be much more appropriate I gues to have an elephant gun

Turkish Mauser. 8mm. Bear? It's what's for dinner...

Can't carry it on the bike though!

dch · 02-20-2008, 07:01 AM

We lived in Colorado for ten years, near Alma, and had Bears come up in the yard, in the spring and summer. They were black bears and mostly I think just looking for something to eat. We noticed them right after the thaw when there wasn't much growing yet. I had big dogs, Malamutes, and the bears were not very afraid of them, they would just kind of wander around sniffing the with the dogs barking. One time I thought I would take the hand gun out and scare the bear away. The wife and kids were terrified when the bears would come around, so, I went out side and blasted a few rounds into the air from my trusty .22 cal. pistol. The bear ran around my p.u. truck and then stood up and looked over the hood right at me, sniffing. I then yelled,hey bear, git outta here, git,you sombitch and fired one more round into the air. The bear then got down on all fours, turned and walked slowly away, across the yard and out on to the road.
Most of the camping I did in the Rockies was during Elk or Deer season. We always had plenty of people around and made lots of noise, plus it was in the late fall, we never had any problems with bears. Camping alone,in the spring, bears could be a concern. Take care of your food,the way others have sugessted, make plenty of noise and take a gun if you want. Not sure it would really help in and emergency, but it might help you sleep better.

DCH

mike1952 · 02-20-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Taurkon

A concealed weapon is probably not the best idea if you find yourself face to face with a Griz, unless you are packing dirty harry style. A 9mm, .40, or .45 just isn't going to cut it. My inlaws use to carry 357's in Alaska but they have even admit that it probably would not have been wise to defend themselves with even that small a caliber gun.

As Mike mentioned, bear spray should be an option. It can be used against most any animal you feel threatened by and is probably legal to carry anywhere in North America at least. I am not sure about Europe.

If I am in areas that have grizzlies (which is not that large in the lower 48) I keep a 44mag or Ruger 45 colt revolver with handloads. Some of the loadings for the 45 colt (not to be confused with the 45 acp that is used in the 1911 style handguns) meet or exceed a 44 mag but you need the right strong gun. I also use hard cast bullets in my handloads. You need penetration not expansion. I have a few guns that are chambered for these rounds and all but one can be carried concealed. At the camp I keep a Marlin Guide gun in 45/70 with hard cast bullets. If someone wants to learn more about this topic send me a pm. I have some interesting links.

DualSportKid · 02-21-2008, 06:12 PM

I am not a city boy. Lived, worked and played in the country all my life. Been swimming with gators and sharks been nose to nose with bears and hogs. None of them have ever wanted to eat me. In my opinion you don’t need a gun in the country unless you’re hunting. That being said the most dangerous weapon I carry in the woods unless hunting is a machete. If there is a critter around I don’t want around I just stand upright and let them know I am there and they usually leave. If they don’t leave like some curious bears have not when I have been cooking (usually in some state park because some dumb ass has been feeding them), I make some noise they are not used to like bang on a cook pot with a spoon and walk toward them. They leave. NEVER run from an animal, it triggers a natural reaction that will make them chase you. You just took on the action that their food does. You are the dominate species, act like it and you will be fine. Now in the city you need protection. I prefer a compact model 27 .40 Glock with Golden Saber hollow points and a Pearce PG-2733 clip extender. Super reliable, fairly accurate and loads of knock down power.

swjohnsey · 02-21-2008, 09:02 PM

Exactly right except that I prefer .45 ACP.

Herewego · 02-22-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DualSportKid

If they don’t leave like some curious bears have not when I have been cooking (usually in some state park because some dumb ass has been feeding them)

usually there or a heavily used trail

Komito · 02-22-2008, 05:23 PM

follow the directions above and you've nothing to worry about. A guide once told me If you bring a gun, take three parts of ammo:

1 Blank to scare the bear, 1 rubber round to deter the attacker, 1 real one for yourself when they're gnawing on your head

Komito · 02-22-2008, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by swjohnsey

Exactly right except that I prefer .45 ACP.

EVEN .45 WON'T WORK

swjohnsey · 02-22-2008, 06:20 PM

The .45 ACP is for me.

tony the tiger · 02-27-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sbn

what do you do when camping in the wild??

How do you keep the interested animals away from you camp area?

I am asking because I dont have too much experience with the wildlife (am a cityboy) And a hunter got killed by a bear about a month ago here in sweden, so I am curious how you guys stay alive out there

What do you bring for camping? both for safety and for comfort.

mayby someone have a link to a list of what would be good to bring camping when on motorcycle.

So let's try to keep it generic, eh?

Mr Mike · 02-28-2008, 07:41 AM

An air horn could probably deter curious animals. They are fairly small and extreamly loud.

dwayne · 02-28-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wingysataday

what if you shot him in the face or head? What else could you do? It would be much more appropriate I gues to have an elephant gun

wow, you have alot of faith in a .32. Hollow points at that! The skull of a bear is thick, dense and the right angle to deflect a pretty big round. You stand a better chance of pissing the bear off with that pea shooter than defending yourself.

given a charging bear, I'd take pepper spray any day!

02-19-2008, 10:19 PM	#31
wingysataday Studly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Boise, ID Oddometer: 583	this always helps me sleep better. hollow points 32 rounds in 2 clips. night night for me and the bear hopefully! Also bear spray has been deemed uneffective. Small caliber gun may not do all that much to a bear but is sure a whole-hellaofalot better than a stick! __________________ Boise, 950 superenduro. http://blackdogcw.com/ (exceptional products) Over 6 million Americans have died from abortion during the war in Iraq.

02-21-2008, 06:12 PM	#37
DualSportKid Battered Adventurer Joined: Jan 2008 Location: Hobe Sound Florida Oddometer: 57	You are at the top of the food chain, act like it I am not a city boy. Lived, worked and played in the country all my life. Been swimming with gators and sharks been nose to nose with bears and hogs. None of them have ever wanted to eat me. In my opinion you don’t need a gun in the country unless you’re hunting. That being said the most dangerous weapon I carry in the woods unless hunting is a machete. If there is a critter around I don’t want around I just stand upright and let them know I am there and they usually leave. If they don’t leave like some curious bears have not when I have been cooking (usually in some state park because some dumb ass has been feeding them), I make some noise they are not used to like bang on a cook pot with a spoon and walk toward them. They leave. NEVER run from an animal, it triggers a natural reaction that will make them chase you. You just took on the action that their food does. You are the dominate species, act like it and you will be fine. Now in the city you need protection. I prefer a compact model 27 .40 Glock with Golden Saber hollow points and a Pearce PG-2733 clip extender. Super reliable, fairly accurate and loads of knock down power. __________________ I have spent most of my money on motorcycles, beer and lap dances, the rest I just wasted. 04 Redneck Mutant Buell 05 SV1000S 06 DRZ400SM 07 DL1000 Hummm.. what to buy in 2008?

02-22-2008, 05:23 PM	#40
Komito back in the saddle Joined: Jul 2006 Location: homeward bound.... Oddometer: 782	fate follow the directions above and you've nothing to worry about. A guide once told me If you bring a gun, take three parts of ammo: 1 Blank to scare the bear, 1 rubber round to deter the attacker, 1 real one for yourself when they're gnawing on your head __________________

02-28-2008, 07:41 AM	#44
Mr Mike Savy Adventurer Joined: Feb 2008 Location: NYC & Lower HV, NY Oddometer: 358	Air Horn An air horn could probably deter curious animals. They are fairly small and extreamly loud. Attached Images

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02-20-2008, 05:03 AM	#32
swjohnsey Banned Joined: Mar 2006 Oddometer: 3,568	Yeah, that will kill a bear. BWAHAHAHA!!! If a bear attacks your outa put it in you mouth and pull the trigger.

02-20-2008, 07:01 AM	#35
dch Rock Chalk Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Spring Hill, KS. Oddometer: 243	We lived in Colorado for ten years, near Alma, and had Bears come up in the yard, in the spring and summer. They were black bears and mostly I think just looking for something to eat. We noticed them right after the thaw when there wasn't much growing yet. I had big dogs, Malamutes, and the bears were not very afraid of them, they would just kind of wander around sniffing the with the dogs barking. One time I thought I would take the hand gun out and scare the bear away. The wife and kids were terrified when the bears would come around, so, I went out side and blasted a few rounds into the air from my trusty .22 cal. pistol. The bear ran around my p.u. truck and then stood up and looked over the hood right at me, sniffing. I then yelled,hey bear, git outta here, git,you sombitch and fired one more round into the air. The bear then got down on all fours, turned and walked slowly away, across the yard and out on to the road. Most of the camping I did in the Rockies was during Elk or Deer season. We always had plenty of people around and made lots of noise, plus it was in the late fall, we never had any problems with bears. Camping alone,in the spring, bears could be a concern. Take care of your food,the way others have sugessted, make plenty of noise and take a gun if you want. Not sure it would really help in and emergency, but it might help you sleep better. DCH

02-21-2008, 09:02 PM	#38
swjohnsey Banned Joined: Mar 2006 Oddometer: 3,568	Exactly right except that I prefer .45 ACP.

02-22-2008, 06:20 PM	#42
swjohnsey Banned Joined: Mar 2006 Oddometer: 3,568	The .45 ACP is for me.