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Oh no, he's gone Asian
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Chiang Mai , Thailand
Oddometer: 756
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Riding the Ho Chi Minh trail in Laos
So there I was, sitting in Chiang Mai, cooling my heels, when through the bamboo telegraph I became aware that my good friend Jim in was secretly planning a dirt bike trip in Laos. The idea was to do some of the dirt trails that formed part of the Ho Chi Minh trail. This was to be a sort of a preliminary tour with some friends to see how it went . Somehow he forgot to invite me along, so I quickly fixed that with an email.
. Additionally, we paid him no money since this tour was a bit of an experiment, so this severely limited our ability to complain when things got tough Jim is a great all around guy, and currently has a tour company in Laos called Remote Asia. If you any interest in touring Laos be sure to contact his company here. http://www.remoteasia.com/This is the area we were traveling in, which was the general path of the Ho Chi Minh trail. Just remember that almost the entirety of the Ho Chi Minh trail was in fact in Laos in order to avoid American bombers. ![]() There were a total of four of us that went . My friend Joe, his friend Ted , Jim , and myself. More on Ted, or as I called him, The Ringer, later...We all rendezvoused in Vientiane, and then rented some Honda XR 250s from a local shop. The three bikes were in excellent condition, and caused no trouble whatsoever during the trip. Joe rode his mighty Yamaha Serow all the way up from Phnom Penh. More on this bike later....A modest amount of beers that night, and then off the next morning. Followed highway 13 east for a bit, south for a bit, and then turned off to head due east towards Vietnam. Here is a bit of the road that head towards the Vietnam border. This is my first youtube video, so don't laugh too much. It just gives a general idea of what two lane black top roads are like in Laos. Also think the XR 250 vibrates a bit too much for my camera, causing a lot of blur....... Keep a sharp eye out for the dog I almost hit at 1:10
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Oh no, he's gone Asian
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Chiang Mai , Thailand
Oddometer: 756
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Here is a dam along the way. There are quite a few hydroelectric dams in Laos. Makes sense as they have no other domestic energy sources other than a bit of coal. We waved at the dam guard, he then comes over, unlocks the gate, and then proceeds to give us a dam tour. Fun for us, and probably the highlight of his day.
![]() A dam problem......logs and branches swirling around the intake. Notice the tracks along the side of the dam heading down to the water. ![]() The high tech western solution that came with the dam....A complex machine that is suppose to travel down the tracks and pick the logs up automatically. According to the dam guy it never really worked. ![]() The low tech Laos solution that worked perfectly...... ![]() Hydraulic powered gates that would lift to lower the lake water level. ![]() A stop at a small scenic bridge along the way. ![]() Did you ever lay awake at night and wonder what happened to the external fuel tanks that were carried by American bombers on long range missions over Vietnam ?? When these tanks were emptied, they were simply dropped over Laos. So clever Laos guys figured out they would make great boats !!! A very indirect form of US aid....... ![]() A close up view. You can see some of the original aircraft riveting. They are amazingly enough, called bomb boats..... ![]() Here is a sign admonishing truckers to use condoms. ![]() We spotted this near the town of Lak Sao where we stayed. This is a truck full of Thai dogs headed to Vietnam and someone's dinner plate. I am well aware of the differences in cultures, but this sight still made me feel sort of sad. ![]() Putting a face to them..... ![]() Jim, are you sure we are on the right road ??? A bit of exploring on a road running north from Lak Sao. Will check with Jim, but think this was a part of the Ho Chi Minh trail. ![]() Locals show us how to cross rocky rivers. ![]() So maybe you are thinking that Beemer Boy is looking pretty tough on the open road in strange countries, but maybe he is a wimp when it comes to single track ?? To tell the truth think I am simply too tall for radical dirt riding, as I cannot stand on the pegs without being bent over too far. No problem, I just stay in the saddle and gut my way through with the help of long legs !! Here is some raw footage of the road heading back from the water crossing above. A bit boring, as I am too lazy to figure out the video editing software, and how to put in a hot soundtrack. However if you like single track, have time to kill at the office, and do not mind the droning sound of a Honda 250 engine, this could be interesting to you....... The next day was ccccooooollllldddd. I had left all my warm gear in Vientiane, thinking we were heading down into warmer climes. Instead we caught the edge of the cold front that was turning China into a ice box. We turned south from Lak Sao, but it was wet, cold , and muddy all day. At one point we stopped for lunch, and in the restaurnat we were huddled over clay pots with burning charcoal in them to keep us warm. Felt we had entered the twilight zone, as normally the biggest problem is to be sure you have enough water at all times from the heat. No picture, as I was too cold to walk back out to the bike for the camera. Aftermath of some muddy sections of road. ![]() A coffee stop where I work over one of the locals. The funniest thing about this shot was the factthis kid was driving the bike, pulling up with two friends on the back as well. One of the many reasons to drive carefully through the villages.... ![]()
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It's good to be King™
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Arkansas
Oddometer: 6,636
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Poor dogs!
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The Tiny Ship was Tossed!
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: In the Molehills, not the Mountains
Oddometer: 138
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More!!
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Stupid and Dyslexic
Joined: Apr 2005
Location: Huntington Beach
Oddometer: 7,366
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No more please.....Sorry...Humans are not suppose to eat Dogs....FUCK.
Kinda like you don't have sex with relatives....you know UNIVERSAL TRUTH!
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Oh no, he's gone Asian
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Chiang Mai , Thailand
Oddometer: 756
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Uhhh Jim, why is there a river in the middle of the road ?? Are you sure this is the right way?
![]() Joe crossing with style, showing an amazing feature of his Serow, the ability to cross deep water with no effect on the bike at all. ![]()
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Oh no, he's gone Asian
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Chiang Mai , Thailand
Oddometer: 756
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I knew this picture would be upsetting, but I just want to show what I see, as a look into other cultures. I agree completely , as dogs have been protecting us, and sitting next to us at campfires for thousands of years. But apparently this truth is not so universal, as China, Vietnam, and Korea still engage in this practice. This would make up well over one third of the world's population.....
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Web Footed Adventurer
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: West end I-90 PacificNorthWet
Oddometer: 840
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Dog food -
Yes, unfortunately it is an Asian truth - don't leave out the Philippines . . . . .
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PYYPP
Joined: Feb 2007
Location: Burbank Ca
Oddometer: 6,191
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and thanks.
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Joined: Jun 2006
Location: Western Mindanao
Oddometer: 53
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source of protein
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yup, beemer boy you left out the Philippines ![]() wonderful pictures, can we see more ...
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Oct 2004
Location: Thailand
Oddometer: 139
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Laos Trip
Great start on your trip report.
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It's good to be King™
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Arkansas
Oddometer: 6,636
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Thats what she said.
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Oh no, he's gone Asian
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Chiang Mai , Thailand
Oddometer: 756
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We stopped in a small town where the Lam Son Battle took place between American and North Vietnamese troops. This was on Laos soil by the way........Here is a bit of information on the results.
North Vietnamese Victory Combatants Republic of Vietnam United States Democratic Republic of Vietnam Commanders Hoang Xuan Lam Le Trong Tan (military) Le Quang Dao (political) Strength ARVN: 20,000 troops U.S.: 10,000 troops in support ~25,000 - ~35,000 troops Casualties ARVN: 8,483 killed 12,420 wounded 691 missing U.S.: 211 killed 1,942 wounded 42 missing[1] PAVN: ~13,000 - 16,000 killed or wounded 69 captured[2] Here is Joe commanding one of the wrecked tanks. ![]() It was powered by an air cooled aircraft engine which did not make a bit of sense to me. Had a feeling it was meant to be used a colder climate. ![]() Some ordinance. Think the center one is a cluster bomb casing. ![]() And of course some local kids manning the anti aircraft gun. ![]() Now rolling along further south and east heading to Paxse. This bridge was bombed by the Americans during the war as well. You can see the remains of one of the vertical supports on the right side of the picture. Not really sure why it was bombed , as it is quite a bit inland from the Ho Chi Minh trail. Too deep to ride across, so time for the little boat to take us across at 5 dollars a head. ![]() Local kids gather to see if the strange foreigners will fall in the water. ![]() Ok, I will go first. Think little boat, and think tippy boat....Just about went overboard before the boat started moving. Once it had forward movement it was better. ![]() Am thinking hey, this is not so bad. Then I hear the captain screaming in Laos at his stalwart crew member. Huhh ?? The crew member then starts frantically bailing out the boat. I then notice that the headlight on the bike is digging into the water, diverting it into the boat. No real cure mid channel , so he just keeps bailing away until we reached the other bank. ![]() Giving a sigh of relief I did not meet my maker in the river, now time to unload the bike. They are heavier then they look, and the riverbank was steep and muddy. Made for a tricky unloading. ![]() Get the bike off the boat trying not to fall down, then start the bike in gear while standing next to it, and sort of push and power your way up to flatter ground. ![]() Longer shot of Jim coming into shore. Also a good look at the three inches of free board. ![]() Better view of the slope you had to fight your way up. Ted is in the blue shirt. This little episode was made all the more amusing for him as he is in the marine cargo business !!! ![]() Locals on the other side as well to see if we sink. ![]() Here Jim to talking to some local guys. He had abandoned an old Minsk bike that died there last year. When he first spoke to them one guy seemed to indicate he was now the owner of the bike. Then maybe he thought Jim wanted the bike back, so then things became very vague....Jim was just happy someone had found it and fixed it up. ![]() We stopped in a small village for a break . Very few tourists would go through this area. Here is a close up picture of Ted, the Ringer, in battle gear. Before he came over Joe said he thought Ted was a pretty good rider.....That was the understatement of the year. I would be riding along at what I thought was a normal pace. He would then blast past me like my bike had reverse. An amazing and humbling sight. ![]() Yours truly, sort of dwarfing my Honda 250. ![]() The expedition leader, Jim. He is pretty fluent in Laos, and had no trouble speaking to the locals. ![]() And Joe of course. ![]() The next day more water crossings of course. Here is Ted blasting one of them. ![]() This had to be one of the funnier sights I have seen in Asia. One of the reasons I never underestimate the ability of local people to get difficult things done. We had just finished this pretty deep crossing, with the Hondas barely making it. Then once on the other side we meet this jolly fellow , who needed to go across the way we had just came. First thought was no way in the world a step though bike would make it across this deep water. Suddenly all the kids who had seemed to playing next to the stream go right to work. They unloaded all his cargo and carried it over bag by bag. They then put a stick through the front tire, lifted it way up, and then rolled it easily across the stream. ![]() A closer look. A simple and effective solution. Total cost was about 1 dollar. Will have to remember this trick. ![]() Take the boat across ??? No freaking way, that's for wimps. We rode this one too, although I admit to having second thoughts halfway across. The Hondas would tend to stall out in deep water, but they always easily restarted. Of course the Serow plowed across like it was part boat. ![]() The trick on these crossings is to always walk them first to find the right path and avoid the deep holes. Wet boots never killed anyone. ![]()
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Joined: Aug 2004
Location: SF, CA
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Awesome!
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