ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Riding > Trip Planning
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 03-22-2008, 12:27 PM   #31
Jamie Z OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Jamie Z's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: almost Memphis
Oddometer: 7,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by nashopolis
When sleeping outside of churches do you ask first? or just pitch and pray (so to speak).
I've never asked permission to sleep outside of a church. Not because I'm being sneaky, but every time I've camped behind a church, nobody is there when I arrive, and nobody is there when I leave. I did once leave a note on a desk when I slept inside a church. The note had my contact info, but I never heard anything. I guess they were cool with it.

I'll respond to the other half of your post a bit later.

Jamie
__________________
I'm the Tent Space Guy Sign up to host fellow travelers here.

Budget Travel the Jamie Z Way
Jamie Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2008, 02:32 PM   #32
rob1313
Still learning
 
rob1313's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Location: Canada
Oddometer: 4,292
Nice post Zman. I've been reading your stuff for awhile now. I'll be putting these ideas to good use this summer. Thanks a million.

Rob
__________________
"To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all." - Oscar Wilde
rob1313 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2008, 01:06 AM   #33
Bigmak
Bornagin Realist
 
Bigmak's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Vaderson, Washingon
Oddometer: 16,173
This is cool Zman.
I grew up floating the streams of Missouri with my dad, brother, and dad's friends. We would pitch the thick tarp on the "chert" and sleep well. If rain came, the canoes held the tarp and we slept dry (and for free). I got Gerry panniers for my HS graduation. In between college I was art director of a 5 state Hunting and Fishing newspaper. It provided the money to upgrade my Schwinn to a Sports Tourer, and add more Gerry gear (early 1970's). I came to Oregon, at 19, with just my bike. I pedaled everywhere until I married at 21. In the early 90's I was doing a lot of bike touring, pitching tents in hidden places. I continued to seek the experience of our forefathers, and sleep for free. Once I got motorized again, I sought out "commando" camping. (These sound like your stories).
But I write this to say I have 3 free campsites in the NW (Mt. St. Helens, Crater Lake, Hells Canyon) to provide our fellow travelers the experience our pioneers knew; not paying for sleep. I dream of a network of free camp sites for 2 wheeled travelers around the nation.
Bigmak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2008, 08:32 AM   #34
pilot
Slacker Moderator
 
pilot's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Location: Kansas City
Oddometer: 30,765
The Missouri Conservation Commission puts out a map with all the areas they own marked. Most of them, you can primitive camp for free. Other than during the busy hunting seasons, like deer and turkey, you have the place to yourself.
__________________
The other 10% are sociopaths , serial killers and KLR riders. You wont get much sympathy from them.
-Furious D

Buy my Versys.
pilot is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-24-2008, 09:06 AM   #35
a1fa
Riding Nomad™
 
a1fa's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Arkansas
Oddometer: 13,464
I want to go to Florida, but all campings spots are booked. I wonder if there are any places you can just setup a tent at the beach and not worry about getting hassled by the 5-0.

I am thinking about Port St. Joe -- and if anybody knows a good hide-out spot. Please let me know.
__________________
Learn to ride. Ride to learn.
a1fa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2008, 12:40 AM   #36
Jamie Z OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Jamie Z's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: almost Memphis
Oddometer: 7,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by a1fa
I wonder if there are any places you can just setup a tent at the beach and not worry about getting hassled by the 5-0.
My experience in Florida is that inland, there were plenty of places to pitch a tent. Near the beach and other touristy places, I couldn't find anywhere where I thought I would go unnoticed. The Keys, for example. I never found a good out-of-the-way place to sleep on the Keys.

The only thing to worry about inland is that there are lots of low-lying areas and lots of agriculture. That can make it hard sometimes to find a good spot for stealth camping.

Got any Florida relatives? Try couchsurfing?

Jamie
__________________
I'm the Tent Space Guy Sign up to host fellow travelers here.

Budget Travel the Jamie Z Way
Jamie Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-25-2008, 05:12 AM   #37
GaM
Beastly Adventurer
 
GaM's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Oddometer: 1,877
Quote:
Originally Posted by a1fa
I want to go to Florida, but all campings spots are booked. I wonder if there are any places you can just setup a tent at the beach and not worry about getting hassled by the 5-0.

I am thinking about Port St. Joe -- and if anybody knows a good hide-out spot. Please let me know.
I just did a search on Reserve America for St. Joseph Peninsula State Park for May 1 through May 31 and there was a ton of vacancies.
GaM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-26-2008, 07:22 PM   #38
Frostback
Frostback
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Location: Edmonton, Alberta
Oddometer: 216
Good post, great post. It is all about being self sufficient and economical. Some of my favorite tips:

Remember that old speedo swimsuit your wife won't let you wear any more? they make great underware for motorcycling. Wash and dry quickly, don't wedgie at all and are light.

Be very wary about camping on rights of ways. If drunken bush parties occur, you might find yourself under some truck axle by accident.

Ramen noodles are about $.80 per pack and though salty, are quick and good. If you dont cook, use the hottest water in the truck stop bathroom or ask the waitress for a cup of hot water and there is supper.

Farmers are generally cool folks (watch the farm dogs though) and if you stop in the evening and ask if you can camp over under a tree across their pasture (plain sight, a long way over) they usually will let you.

Out of sight is out of mind. The middle of a grove of trees well off the road and the minimal use of lights will usually let you camp undetected but get out of there early in the morning. I always have a mild exageration on the tip of my tongue "Officer, I was simply too tired to safely ride anymo when darkness caught up with me" It is usually true too.



Lee
Frostback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2008, 06:45 AM   #39
kantuckid
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Location: Kentucky-Eastern that is!
Oddometer: 2,669
GaM- You are saying there are lots of camping spots in Florida in May-well guess why! All the snowbirds have gone home! Try the same search for late Nov thru Feb!!! Between the Canadians(no disrepect intended as they are nice folks , but do tie up the campsites something fierce!) and the oldies(like me and my wife) and the full timers(who are living and rotating amongst these various sites) it is pretty much impossible to find a spot in the dead of winter. The FL state park system keeps ,I think ,10% available for drive ups, but these are often NOT the best sites IMO. If anybody knows a solution please PM me so not too many people know about it! BTW, most state & national forests have free camping spots available , but understand that these are WO services.
kantuckid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2008, 10:47 AM   #40
thetourist
Just passing thru
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Moscow, Idaho
Oddometer: 3,770
Thanks!

I'm just back from a month on the road and I use some of your tips.

Like the laundry soap...it works!

I went without a stove, but wished I had kept it. Starting out in the cold weather is easier with something hot in the belly. One time I had to go 80 miles to get breakfast and I was very cold by then.

Here are a couple of my tips. I've learned to eat dry granola type cereal in the am. I store it in a large square mayo container. It packs well. on short trips I have a smaller one.

For my hot tea in the morn I carry sugar in a Tums bottle and powdered milk in a Vicks Formula 44 bottle. They are just the right size, and free.

I prefer tuna from a can. It travels better. Mustard on tuna is tasty. Chicken can be had in the same small cans.

I vary when I eat at a restaurant, but breakfast is a bargain. If I eat bkfst late I can eat fewer meals. When I eat supper at a real restaurant I take a doggy bag for bkfst or lunch the next day. So a $15 meal is now two meals. I get a dining experience and a cheaper meal.

Rum and hot tea go together very well. This makes a nice hot toddy before bed.

Hot sauce/salsa makes everything palatable.

Thanks again for the tips.
__________________
thetourist
The gate guard glares at me. "It's after curfew." He looks me up and down, "What do you think you are, some kind of ****** tourist?" ..Phu Loi 1969
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=667893 My Idaho
thetourist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2008, 09:10 AM   #41
Jamie Z OP
Beastly Adventurer
 
Jamie Z's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Location: almost Memphis
Oddometer: 7,622
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frostback
Ramen noodles are about $.80 per pack and though salty, are quick and good. If you dont cook, use the hottest water in the truck stop bathroom or ask the waitress for a cup of hot water and there is supper.
Good idea about the hot water. That's something I could do sans cooking gear. Though I think you're paying about 10x too much for Ramen. 'Round here, I've often seen it for 10/$1. Even regular price is 20-25 cents a pack.

Not an ounce of nutrition, though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thetourist
I'm just back from a month on the road and I use some of your tips.

Like the laundry soap...it works!

I went without a stove, but wished I had kept it. Starting out in the cold weather is easier with something hot in the belly. One time I had to go 80 miles to get breakfast and I was very cold by then.

I prefer tuna from a can. It travels better. Mustard on tuna is tasty. Chicken can be had in the same small cans.

I vary when I eat at a restaurant, but breakfast is a bargain. If I eat bkfst late I can eat fewer meals. When I eat supper at a real restaurant I take a doggy bag for bkfst or lunch the next day. So a $15 meal is now two meals. I get a dining experience and a cheaper meal.
Great! Like to hear it. What laundry soap tip are you referring to? The rooting-around-in-the-trash to find detergent?

I wish I had the ambition to carry a stove too... there are times when I'd like to have one. Other times, I'm glad I don't have the extra bulk.

Who are you, Jessica Simpson? It's just called Chicken of the Sea.

$15 meal!? And you had us all fooled into thinking you were a budget traveler. A $5 sandwich from Subway is dinner and lunch. I know what you mean though. Often, it's best to order the larger dish and use it for two meals for just a fraction more than something smaller.

Quick story... I was traveling with my uber-tight friend Scott. We ate breakfast at a place in New Orleans which had an all-you-can-eat pancake breakfast. The thing is, these pancakes were enormous. They started you with one. So we eat, Scott finished his pancake and asks the waitress if he can have another. She stops, "Are you serious? Nobody has ever asked for a second one." Scott assures her that he would like another and, this is all-you-can-eat, right? She brings a second one. Scott takes a few bites, then folds up the pancake and puts it in his pocket. Scott also drinks the drain-water from his canned tuna.

Jamie
__________________
I'm the Tent Space Guy Sign up to host fellow travelers here.

Budget Travel the Jamie Z Way
Jamie Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2008, 10:34 AM   #42
thetourist
Just passing thru
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Moscow, Idaho
Oddometer: 3,770
[Great! Like to hear it. What laundry soap tip are you referring to? The rooting-around-in-the-trash to find detergent?]

Yup, that one.

[Who are you, Jessica Simpson? It's just called Chicken of the Sea. ]

I may not be the sharpest tooth on the saw, but there really is chicken in a can. With the processing it tastes much like tuna though.


[$15 meal!? And you had us all fooled into thinking you were a budget traveler. A $5 sandwich from Subway is dinner and lunch. I know what you mean though. Often, it's best to order the larger dish and use it for two meals for just a fraction more than something smaller.]

I don't run quite as tight a budget as you. Was out 30 days on $2000, including a new set of Anakees. During cold weather riding it is hard to stay warm unless you eat regularly. Plus I like to eat.



[Scott also drinks the drain-water from his canned tuna. ]

That's too hard core for me.
__________________
thetourist
The gate guard glares at me. "It's after curfew." He looks me up and down, "What do you think you are, some kind of ****** tourist?" ..Phu Loi 1969
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=667893 My Idaho
thetourist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2008, 11:25 AM   #43
Creekrider
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Creekrider's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Location: Warsaw,IN
Oddometer: 118
Great Post
Another thing that will go a long way and takes up little space is grits. I just add some salt to mine with hot water and have a quick and warm breakfast.

I also use the single coffee bags but find it takes two to make it to my liking.
__________________
Creekrider
___________

07 DL1000
03 KLR650
01 DRZ400S
Creekrider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2008, 08:31 AM   #44
newcastleadam
Artful Tagger
 
newcastleadam's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: Gainesville, Fl
Oddometer: 3,449
Trial Runs

One more thing to add: trial runs. Although this seems very obvious, sometimes it slips through the cracks due to time constraints etc.

If you're prepping for a large trip, try and do a trial run, even if it is only overnight. This holds for the experienced and inexperienced alike. A trail run can be one of the most important trip preparations you can do. The best way to shake out gear, figure out what works/does not work etc is to use it. Or to need it and not have it. That tends to be the way I add gear.


My $0.02.

Cheers,
newcastleadam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2008, 07:04 PM   #45
SteveJ
n00b, but I have beer...
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Location: America's Seaplane City, FL
Oddometer: 124
Having the pleasure of room on the Connie, I carry an old Grasshopper stove. I generally stop somewhere in the afternoon to pick up ice, beer, salted in the shell peanuts and a TV dinner, plus a little sumpin for the next morning, usually rolls of some sort.

Will be using an XT225 for camping soon, gotta reduce my stuff.
__________________
I'm glad I don't have the fastest color, after today's 100 mile jaunt I'm one properly placed state trooper away from jail as it is. (Hang2er)
Women can fake orgasms, men can fake relationships
Banned from KLR650.net
SteveJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 08:34 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014