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Old 02-28-2008, 06:26 AM   #1
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Facet #40171 Users Check In

I'm about to switch over from the earlier Facet (I forget the #).
Question: Hows the 40171 treating you ? Any flooding or hydro locking issues with the petcocks left open with this one ?
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Old 02-28-2008, 01:07 PM   #2
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Please post!!!!

+1 this thread...

If it's any consolation, a friend of mine here in Ontario just finished up a weekend training ride down south and his 40171 worked perfect!

I'm planning to install my 40171 in the coming week.
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:11 PM   #3
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So did Dennis post a ride report?

I have heard only good things of the Facet 171 you speak of - no worries - even with aqualine tanks on.





edit: correct model name
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:58 PM   #4
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So far so good. 2,000 miles on it using the 12 gal tanks and it holds the fuel back over night. It has been starting up much better than w/ my old facet. (I think it flooded the motor on start up)

Riding has slowed down around here w/ all the snow/ice, but hopefully it will get better soon.
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Old 03-23-2008, 04:22 AM   #5
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My Facet 40171 is working flawlessly.
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Old 03-23-2008, 07:20 AM   #6
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I have a Facet pump on my SE. I am not sure of the model. I think that it is the older one that allow for gas to flow when the 950 AVDs were on their side stand. It doesn't do this on the SE.

But I have noticed that my pump runs a lot. Even when it sounds like it is pushing on a serous pressure head.

Do these pump have a pressure swtich? Do they turn off for a while when the carb bowls are full?

I am having battery problems. It would be great if I could figure out if the pump is draining the battery.
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Old 03-23-2008, 07:27 AM   #7
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Mine shuts off.
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:01 AM   #8
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Does it really pull down before it turns off?
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Old 03-23-2008, 08:03 AM   #9
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well, it does not flow fuel when off if thats what you mean.
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:00 AM   #10
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Does it really pull down before it turns off?
This quote is from the HOW. It is part of a description of a series of tests done on several Facet fuel pumps for the light/experimental aircraft industry.

Dennis Douglas, Pillar Point Avionics, Inc.:
"In the "OFF" state, however, the differences between the pumps become more obvious. At a 30-inch head pressure, the 40105 and 40106 pumps have a forward "leak" rate or drain rate of about 15 gal/h. These pumps thus flow freely in the forward direction at about one-half the pumping rate.... In the reverse direction, the 40105 and 40106 drain backwards at between 0.05 ga/h to about 0.25 gal/hr, with a mean value over a dozen tests with four different pumps of about 0.1 gal/h. (As a point of reference, 0.1 gal/h is about one drop per second). Compare these numbers to the 40171 pump, which showed no detectable leakage in the "OFF" state in either the forward or reverse directions over several hours."


The full quote is at:

http://www.ktm950.info/how/wotf/wotf.html#FuelPumps
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Old 03-23-2008, 03:56 PM   #11
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Arrived from good ol USA the other day...

Couple of 40171,s waiting to replace the 40105s should give me the functionality I wanted originally with electrically switching between front and rear tanks (without having to turn off fuel taps!)
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Old 03-23-2008, 07:38 PM   #12
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40171's should work good for that use. I have a bunch of them "out there" in daily use on various iterations of multi tank installs. None have failed yet and all are performing as designed.
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Old 03-23-2008, 09:43 PM   #13
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Go for it!

I swapped my old Facet for a new 40171. It works perfectly. No leaks or hydrolock. The only pain was having to remove the battery to get at the mounting hardware.
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:00 AM   #14
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This post did nothing to answer my question.
I get this all the time. Guys who respond back with a truck load of irrelevant info so a simple question.
I really don't think that the answer is "See my link to my page of irrelevant info."




Quote:
Originally Posted by cpmodem
This quote is from the HOW. It is part of a description of a series of tests done on several Facet fuel pumps for the light/experimental aircraft industry.

Dennis Douglas, Pillar Point Avionics, Inc.:
"In the "OFF" state, however, the differences between the pumps become more obvious. At a 30-inch head pressure, the 40105 and 40106 pumps have a forward "leak" rate or drain rate of about 15 gal/h. These pumps thus flow freely in the forward direction at about one-half the pumping rate.... In the reverse direction, the 40105 and 40106 drain backwards at between 0.05 ga/h to about 0.25 gal/hr, with a mean value over a dozen tests with four different pumps of about 0.1 gal/h. (As a point of reference, 0.1 gal/h is about one drop per second). Compare these numbers to the 40171 pump, which showed no detectable leakage in the "OFF" state in either the forward or reverse directions over several hours."


The full quote is at:

http://www.ktm950.info/how/wotf/wotf.html#FuelPumps
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Old 03-24-2008, 08:09 AM   #15
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Talking Maybe you should make your question clearer

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This post did nothing to answer my question.
I get this all the time. Guys who respond back with a truck load of irrelevant info so a simple question.
I really don't think that the answer is "See my link to my page of irrelevant info."
Gee whiz, and there I thought I was answering your question.
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